TJC1 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Things are always better in retrospect. I'm too young to live it, but we had 2 serious recessions in the 70's and another in the early 90's. Times are bad now but they were'nt great then either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebatty Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 You are right of course, many people from Eastern Europe did fight against Germany. But many did not! Today in some of those Countries the far right are again on the rise as happened in Germany in the 1930's. Even nearer to our shores in France and Spain at that time there where many who sided with Germany in the second World war. Spain in particular had its own Fascist government . I think it is fair to say that there were many people in this country also who supported the national socialist regime , mostly from the elite class . " The Black Shirts " of Mosley and to-day in the BNP. You can't point the finger at some one else and close your eyes to what happens here . That is exactly what the people of Germany did in the 30's . Their attention was diverted away from the problems of rampant inflation and the poverty that was the result . A comment which I made somewhere else on this thread .( To understand the future you have to look at the past ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 bombadier the railbuilding company lost a contract to rebuild rail carriages when they closed down nearly 1500 people lost their jobs out of this figure 900 were temporary workers with not a chance of redundacies etc. how many more companies are being run with "temporary workers" in this country with workers not getting what they are or should be entitled too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebatty Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Things are always better in retrospect. I'm too young to live it, but we had 2 serious recessions in the 70's and another in the early 90's. Times are bad now but they were'nt great then either. Think on this one . Every 10 years since the 50's there has been a recession . It has given the government of the day, the opportunity on each occasion to recoup most , if not all , the benefits , concessions , wage and salary increases etc., that have been won over the previous ten years . Consequently the worker is left each time " no better off " . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafodil Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think it is fair to say that there were many people in this country also who supported the national socialist regime , mostly from the elite class . " The Black Shirts " of Mosley and to-day in the BNP. You can't point the finger at some one else and close your eyes to what happens here . That is exactly what the people of Germany did in the 30's . Their attention was diverted away from the problems of rampant inflation and the poverty that was the result . A comment which I made somewhere else on this thread .( To understand the future you have to look at the past ) . We are on the same wave length I think. To ignore history is to repeat it! ---------- Post added 05-03-2013 at 22:44 ---------- Think on this one . Every 10 years since the 50's there has been a recession . It has given the government of the day, the opportunity on each occasion to recoup most , if not all , the benefits , concessions , wage and salary increases etc., that have been won over the previous ten years . Consequently the worker is left each time " no better off " . All the recessions you refer to were over within one or two years . The present one could last for decades. The consequences may change history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebatty Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 We are on the same wave length I think. To ignore history is to repeat it! ---------- Post added 05-03-2013 at 22:44 ---------- All the recessions you refer to were over within one or two years . The present one could last for decades. The consequences may change history. I think the point is the objective in the recession ? You are right in one sense , this one is lasting longer and deeper . Then again , people are having to dig much deeper in this one because of the swinging cuts . The consequence is still the same i.e. the worker has lost all that he had gained over the last decade . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I don't know how true it is but outgoings seemed to be far less for yesterday's worker. Not everyone owned a car, there were no extras beyond the basic TV licence and three channels. I do remember us having to wait to buy a kettle once. Back then it was about £20, which was going on for a day's wage. Now you can pick one up for £4.99 from Argos, easily an hours wage for many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 yes you would have thought it would be better not worse Were you around and working in the 80's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebatty Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I don't know how true it is but outgoings seemed to be far less for yesterday's worker. Not everyone owned a car, there were no extras beyond the basic TV licence and three channels. I do remember us having to wait to buy a kettle once. Back then it was about £20, which was going on for a day's wage. Now you can pick one up for £4.99 from Argos, easily an hours wage for many. Don't know how long you are going back for your kettle . Even so , a £20 kettle seems a little extravagant to say the least . It must have been an all dancing all singing kettle as well as a whistler . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 I don't know how true it is but outgoings seemed to be far less for yesterday's worker. Not everyone owned a car, there were no extras beyond the basic TV licence and three channels. I do remember us having to wait to buy a kettle once. Back then it was about £20, which was going on for a day's wage. Now you can pick one up for £4.99 from Argos, easily an hours wage for many. thats the trouble we all thought that buying cheaper stuff to save money was a good thing. looking back i wonder how many wished they could buy british and saved 1000s of jobs? we are buying from countries who are not operating how we have to operate giving them an unfair advantage over us. we had a conservative gov who sold off our manufactoring to be in a position held to ransom by foreign countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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