Privatisation of n h s

[Staunton]

'Labour hasn't done too bad out of it either', says alchresearch, and he's right. New Labour were fully involved in the creeping privatisation of the NHS.

[Mecky]

I think you've got a point tbh...but why would these companies be necessary if the NHS was capable of running it's own affairs efficiently?

 

Perhaps it is and perhaps it is being deliberately rundown to try and justify privatisation. Privatisation of the NHS ... A surefire election winner

[mikem8634]

Care UK is owned by Bridgepoint Capital a private equity outfit operating across Europe, so don't expect them to pay their tax, even as they help themselves to taxpayers money as they take over lucrative contracts in the former NHS.

 

This is central neoliberal policy, driven by the tory-led coalition – cut the public sector, privatise any lucrative sections to enhance private profit, deregulate (so that these private operators can escape any accountability) and use offshore techniques to avoid tax.

 

Wages, terms and conditions of former NHS employees will be driven down, HM Revenue and Customs will lose out, and private investors will enjoy another bonanza at the expense of taxpayers - who paid for and used to own the NHS.

 

Well said - in a nutshell.

 

Labour hasn't done too bad out of it either though:

 

http://www.cwunorthwest.org/docs/News2012/DespiteProtestationLabourMPsProfitFromNHSPrivatisation.html

 

 

And this is an interesting read:

 

http://www.libdems.org.uk/siteFiles/resources/docs/policy/Health/Labour%20and%20the%20private%20sector.pdf

 

 

 

Criticise the current government by all means, but don't gloss over the fact the previous government did it and nobody complained.

 

---------- Post added 15-03-2013 at 12:01 ----------

 

And another:

 

Alan Milburn, the former health secretary under Labour, was a consultant for Alliance Medical’s parent company. Alliance Medical runs diagnostic services for the NHS, including in Birmingham and Falkirk. In 2008, his registered parliamentary interests highlight that he was a member of Lloyds pharmacy’s Healthcare Advisory panel and was paid in the region of £30,000.

 

Also in 2008, Milburn was a member of the European Advisory Board of Bridgepoint Capital Limited, the private equity firm that acquired Care UK.

 

Yes but Labour are the saviours and Conservatives are evil.

 

This is much more important than playing party politics with the issue.

[bobbyblade]

regardless of which party is to blame and if the n h s should be more efficient the fact of the matter is that many vunerable people will be put into private care and not n h s and the staff wages and conditions significantly lowered with further tenders going out in the near future a large chunk of the n h s could become privatised within a short period of time .

[truman]

regardless of which party is to blame and if the n h s should be more efficient the fact of the matter is that many vunerable people will be put into private care and not n h s .

 

looking at Mid Staffs..would that always be worse then what the NHS offers at times?

[MrSmith]

Care UK is owned by Bridgepoint Capital a private equity outfit operating across Europe, so don't expect them to pay their tax, even as they help themselves to taxpayers money as they take over lucrative contracts in the former NHS.

 

This is central neoliberal policy, driven by the tory-led coalition – cut the public sector, privatise any lucrative sections to enhance private profit, deregulate (so that these private operators can escape any accountability) and use offshore techniques to avoid tax.

 

Wages, terms and conditions of former NHS employees will be driven down, HM Revenue and Customs will lose out, and private investors will enjoy another bonanza at the expense of taxpayers - who paid for and used to own the NHS.

 

I always thought it a bit odd for the government to give a company or employee some money for doing something and then take some back off them, might as well have just given them the lower amount in the first place.

[Hillpig]

My Friend has recently been diagnosed with a heart complaint. He works for a company based in Spain and has Health Insurance with them.

 

Remembering that he has paid his NI contributions in this country for almost 50years the treatment he has recieved from the NHS has been contradictory, lacking empathy and advice, in all very poor. After 3 months of waiting for a preliminary appointment, (three cancellations), nothing happened.

 

Alarmed, he has flown to Spain, availed himself of the companies private policy, was admitted to hospital within 48 hours, operated on within 60 hrs and released after a week convalescence, arrangements have been made with him to see a UK based surgeon for any post operative treatment.

 

I am sure the NHS has its merits, but clearly privatised treatment has its place.

[Tomtom66]

regardless of which party is to blame and if the n h s should be more efficient the fact of the matter is that many vunerable people will be put into private care and not n h s and the staff wages and conditions significantly lowered with further tenders going out in the near future a large chunk of the n h s could become privatised within a short period of time .

 

 

Get ready it won't be long before its health insurance or tens of thousands in costs.

[Vague_Boy]

Labour have been deeply dishonest about their role in opening the door to unfettered private competition in the National Health Service.

 

Surely not!

 

---------- Post added 15-03-2013 at 14:53 ----------

 

Perhaps it is and perhaps it is being deliberately rundown to try and justify privatisation.

 

Governments don't have the best recording in running things. Look at British Leyland and the Austin Allego. Or when you had to get your phone from the GPO and there were only two designs and a limited number of colours.

 

Interestingly, in Germany the government doesn't try to run a health service. It's all private.

 

Can't afford it? The government pays for you, it doesn't try to do it all itself.

 

The medical standards in German hospitals are some of the highest in the world. Modern treatments are available in Germany much earlier than in other countries. Medical education of surgeons and other medical professionals is excellent. Medical universities play a major role in international medical research.

LINK

 

There are those who, for ideological reasons, would rather keep the current (failing) system and ensure that the poor in this country continue to get a second class service.

 

How they sleep at night I don't know.

[Mecky]

Surely not!

 

---------- Post added 15-03-2013 at 14:53 ----------

 

 

Governments don't have the best recording in running things. Look at British Leyland and the Austin Allego. Or when you had to get your phone from the GPO and there were only two designs and a limited number of colours.

 

Interestingly, in Germany the government doesn't try to run a health service. It's all private.

 

Can't afford it? The government pays for you, it doesn't try to do it all itself.

 

 

LINK

 

There are those who, for ideological reasons, would rather keep the current (failing) system and ensure that the poor in this country continue to get a second class service.

 

How they sleep at night I don't know.

 

And private companies do? I expected this sort of rubbish from the likes of you. Thanks for not letting me down.