Supertramp Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Labour hasn't done too bad out of it either though: http://www.cwunorthwest.org/docs/News2012/DespiteProtestationLabourMPsProfitFromNHSPrivatisation.html And this is an interesting read: http://www.libdems.org.uk/siteFiles/resources/docs/policy/Health/Labour%20and%20the%20private%20sector.pdf Criticise the current government by all means, but don't gloss over the fact the previous government did it and nobody complained. ---------- Post added 15-03-2013 at 12:01 ---------- And another: Alan Milburn, the former health secretary under Labour, was a consultant for Alliance Medical’s parent company. Alliance Medical runs diagnostic services for the NHS, including in Birmingham and Falkirk. In 2008, his registered parliamentary interests highlight that he was a member of Lloyds pharmacy’s Healthcare Advisory panel and was paid in the region of £30,000. Also in 2008, Milburn was a member of the European Advisory Board of Bridgepoint Capital Limited, the private equity firm that acquired Care UK. And private companies do? I expected this sort of rubbish from the likes of you. Thanks for not letting me down. Yes, look at Tesco, Virgin, BP etc etc etc, all running things successfully. What has a govt. ever run successfully? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staunton Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 When a tax avoiding multinational takes over a local company or public sector service, ordinary people here in Yorkshire face job losses, the lucky survivors see their wages cut, and their terms and conditions eroded. So, if you, a family member, or a person you know is unlucky enough to work for a body that is taken over, then you, your relative, or your friend will be poorer. And if you own a local business in Sheffield or Rotherham, Doncaster or Brigg, your region will be poorer, your customers will have less in their pocket to buy your goods or services. Meanwhile, business is booming in Mayfair and Jersey. There are significant regional implications to what is happening to the NHS and other services. We here in Yorkshire shall all lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tealc1 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 If you are none of the above and the service is better and cheaper then you are better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The NHS was totally funded by the taxpayer. It is ours. I cannot believe that it is being sold off with so little fuss. At present it does not need to make a profit to fund the greedy rich, but once it is privatised they will find ways of extorting massive amounts of money out of you. The gas and electricity industries did not used to be privatised; look what has happened to energy prices now that they are. They bleed people to death (literally). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillpig Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The medical advances that have taken place in the years since the NHS was founded are astounding. It was never intended to provide some of the services it does provide. The demands of an aging and obese population are increasing. and any method by which monies can be saved or earned over and above that levied by taxation should be welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The medical advances that have taken place in the years since the NHS was founded are astounding. It was never intended to provide some of the services it does provide. The demands of an aging and obese population are increasing. and any method by which monies can be saved or earned over and above that levied by taxation should be welcomed. An NHS funded by the taxpayer does not need to make a profit. If it is privatised the result will be that it becomes a business that will need to fund the "owner's" greed. It will need to make vast profits like the gas and electricity industries do now. The threat of not treating a sick patient gives extensive powers to hospital owners. They will use that power to extort money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Perhaps it is and perhaps it is being deliberately rundown to try and justify privatisation. Privatisation of the NHS ... A surefire election winner Absolute rubbish. Well played. The Nhs is fantastically inefficient - if you can't see that you and your are in very good health. Will this lot be much better ? No idea. But if it does turn to crap they can either bring back into public control, or give another company a go. Just playing the state=good private=bad makes you one eyed and stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Absolute rubbish. Well played. The Nhs is fantastically inefficient - if you can't see that you and your are in very good health. Will this lot be much better ? No idea. But if it does turn to crap they can either bring back into public control, or give another company a go. Just playing the state=good private=bad makes you one eyed and stupid. It's only people's lives that are on the line. Why not just let any Tom , Dick and Harry off the street have a go at running sections of the NHS if they are cheap. Who cares anyhow? Certainly not the tory boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 It's only people's lives that are on the line. Why not just let any Tom , Dick and Harry off the street have a go t running it if they are cheap. Who cares anyhow? Certainly not the tory boys. Or labour either, but let's not facts get in the way. It's not macdonalds doing it, somebody will have put a credible plan together and someone (probably a committee) did the relevant checks and gave it a green light. It might save a few quid and keep generally the same service. Why do you automatically think it will affect patient care to such a high degree ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Or labour either, but let's not facts get in the way. It's not macdonalds doing it, somebody will have put a credible plan together and someone (probably a committee) did the relevant checks and gave it a green light. It might save a few quid and keep generally the same service. Why do you automatically think it will affect patient care to such a high degree ? Because I have already seen at first hand what has happened to care of the elderly when privatised under the present government. The care to a very vulnerable group of people has been devastated. I have personally witnessed one death which has resulted from tory boy cuts. Their aim is to make money for THEM....nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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