tinfoilhat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Because I have already seen at first hand what has happened to care of the elderly under the present government. The care to a very vulnerable group of people has been devastated. I have personally witness one death which has resulted from tory boy cuts. Their aim is to make money for THEM....nothing else. The elderly are often a mistreated and neglected group. What, specifically has this government done to make there plight worse. This is a genuine question, bearing in mind that, certainly locally, it's a labour council that hold the purse strings on council services and the Nhs really doesn't deal in elderly care compared with social services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The elderly are often a mistreated and neglected group. What, specifically has this government done to make there plight worse. This is a genuine question, bearing in mind that, certainly locally, it's a labour council that hold the purse strings on council services and the Nhs really doesn't deal in elderly care compared with social services. They have vastly reduced the budgets to Labour run councils and given them no other options than to make cuts. Tory council budgets have not suffered the same fate as tory boys look after their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 'Labour hasn't done too bad out of it either', says alchresearch, and he's right. New Labour were fully involved in the creeping privatisation of the NHS. Spot on. Labour have their fingerprints all over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 They have vastly reduced the budgets to Labour run councils and given them no other options than to make cuts. Tory council budgets have not suffered the same fate as tory boys look after their own. That's quite a statement. I'll have look to find some evidence to back the claim Tory councils are favoured. Do you think scc for example have manged their money well ? That said, are you saying that prior to 2010 elderly care was fantastic, particularly in labour areas ? There are quite a few families in mid Staffordshire that would disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 That's quite a statement. I'll have look to find some evidence to back the claim Tory councils are favoured. Do you think scc for example have manged their money well ? That said, are you saying that prior to 2010 elderly care was fantastic, particularly in labour areas ? There are quite a few families in mid Staffordshire that would disagree. Care for the elderly is being wound down whether you appreciate it or not. People are dying needlessly under the present fascist regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Care for the elderly is being wound down whether you appreciate it or not. People are dying needlessly under the present fascist regime. How many needlessly died in Staffordshire under the previous government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 None................... Is your point that the present regime should be able to kill more than labour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 None................... Is your point that the present regime should be able to kill more than labour? None? You're kidding....have you read the papers or listened to the news recently? Here's a bit to start you off... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5008935/NHS-targets-may-have-led-to-1200-deaths-in-Mid-Staffordshire.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 None? You're kidding....have you read the papers or listened to the news recently? It is tory owned and biased. The tory boys are merely attempting to make privatisation of everything look right. Give it a face of acceptability. You are merely a tory boy who cannot see the big picture. You are a ten bob millionaire type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staunton Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 'This is much more important than playing party politics with the issue', mikem8634 pleads early on in this thread, but it seems his words have been forgotten. What is essential to appreciate is that the neoliberal agenda has triumphed, and this is going to mean that ordinary poeple are going to see their services decline, their jobs disappear, pay reduced, terms and conditions eroded, and all so that a few wealthy private equity and corporate executives can further enrich themselves. There are many politically aware individuals of all party persuasions who are shocked and appalled by what is going on - tradfitional conservatives who are horrified by what has happened within the tory right, and labour supporters haunted by the betrayal of social principles by a cynical target-led and corporate-friendly New Labour executive. Behind all this is the unmistakeable influence of powerful corporate interests. The UK has become a captured state, and all our services and infrastructure are up for grabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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