Rampent Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 You forgot the EDL and other rightwing nutters. Strange to think they support a day in celebration of somebody who wasn't even English, but hey ho. That's because right ringers are dopes. Really - think about it, all the best peeps in the world are left wing. Apart from Roy 'I have a seat next to Milan' Splatterbys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltheof Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 As an atheist, I don't celebrate any saints, but I would agree that despite the antiquity from the 14th century, there is nothing intrinsic in the story of St George to link him with England, and nothing to make him a religious representative of the national spirit. There are a number of saints who have a greater claim. St Alban may have been the first Christian martyr in these islands, but that was during the Romano-British period before the Anglo-saxons became the dominant occupiers of the country. I would propose Edmund King and martyr as a fitting character (c.841-869) as having been killed by the invading Danes, and already having a cult as the patron saint of England before the takeover by George. According to the hagiography, he was beheaded but the head was found by a wolf leading people to it. The Victorian roof of the surviving timber Anglo-Saxon church at Greensted in Essex depicts this miracle, made during the restoration of the 1840s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampent Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 As an atheist, I don't celebrate any saints, but I would agree that despite the antiquity from the 14th century, there is nothing intrinsic in the story of St George to link him with England, and nothing to make him a religious representative of the national spirit. There are a number of saints who have a greater claim. St Alban may have been the first Christian martyr in these islands, but that was during the Romano-British period before the Anglo-saxons became the dominant occupiers of the country. I would propose Edmund King and martyr as a fitting character (c.841-869) as having been killed by the invading Danes, and already having a cult as the patron saint of England before the takeover by George. According to the hagiography, he was beheaded but the head was found by a wolf leading people to it. The Victorian roof of the surviving timber Anglo-Saxon church at Greensted in Essex depicts this miracle, made during the restoration of the 1840s. You sound posh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltheof Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 You sound posh. No, just better informed and not given to personal insult... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereolab Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Which are more numerous, snakes or dragons? I rest my case. Surely this just proves that Patrick was rubbish at killing snakes, where as George wiped out the dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Boy Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Im going to burn some st george's flags and poppy's with the immigrants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki-red Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 My son is camping out and celebrating Saint Georges day, because he's also the patron Saint of Scouting. (Saint George, not my son ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Is this day just for UKipper nutters or for all of us? The media never give it much coverage. And stuff. Like St.Patrick's day, it's about a man who wasn't Irish. I have no reason to celebrate either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 i'm going hunting dragons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 nothing to make him a religious representative of the national spirit. I dont believe in a god either, but I do believe in having a pride in your own town/city/country. Is he associated with religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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