Obelix Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Being coloured black doesn't mean it's neutral... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey104 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Lol, I have just noticed Scotty's tag ' One life, live it'. Not for long if he's chuffing around with electrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN HABS Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Your Ceiling Rose: What you have in your ceiling rose at the moment is 2 blacks.....these are loop neutrals ( one of them is from another light fitting somewhere else to get power to that fitting ) the two red cables........are switch wires. The new bathroom fitting will have a blue cable - this is the neutral, so goes into the connection with the two blacks. The Brown cable - is the live feed and goes into the connection with the two reds. If your new fitting has a metal body, then it is advisable to securely fit an earth cable ( green ) onto the body of the new fitting and then into the connection on the ceiling rose which is the earth terminal. Your fitting should then switch on / off ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty07 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 Lol, I have just noticed Scotty's tag ' One life, live it'. Not for long if he's chuffing around with electrics. not been funny but not like iam putting my hand on live wires iam turning the power worse thing what happens will trip out not kill me so what are you talking about ---------- Post added 22-03-2013 at 20:18 ---------- Your Ceiling Rose: What you have in your ceiling rose at the moment is 2 blacks.....these are loop neutrals ( one of them is from another light fitting somewhere else to get power to that fitting ) the two red cables........are switch wires. The new bathroom fitting will have a blue cable - this is the neutral, so goes into the connection with the two blacks. The Brown cable - is the live feed and goes into the connection with the two reds. If your new fitting has a metal body, then it is advisable to securely fit an earth cable ( green ) onto the body of the new fitting and then into the connection on the ceiling rose which is the earth terminal. Your fitting should then switch on / off ok. cheers for the help least you not gave silly comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey104 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 not been funny but not like iam putting my hand on live wires iam turning the power worse thing what happens will trip out not kill me so what are you talking about ---------- Post added 22-03-2013 at 20:18 ---------- cheers for the help least you not gave silly comments Flipping heck mate! Calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsneck Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Did any of the replies cure the problem, or is a sparky needed ? PM me if you need a sparky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buza Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Did any of the replies cure the problem, or is a sparky needed ? PM me if you need a sparky. Spilt the blacks one is a neutral & one is a switch wire but needs to be tested to prove this happy days Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavros4a Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 a black "switched live" wire should have a band of red tape on it, to show that it becomes "live" when switched on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN HABS Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 If the guy concerned has a 3plate ceiling rose, then he will have had a length of flexible cable with a cord grip lampholder on the end. Within the ceiling rose, there will the earth connection, a neutral connection and lastly the switchwire connection. The two black cables are both neutral conductors - one being a loop neutral, someone on here suggested splitting these two black cables - in doing so, the op would lose the supply to another light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavros4a Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 depends on how it has been wired up in the first place ---------- Post added 23-03-2013 at 00:58 ---------- modern wiring has live, neutral, switched live and earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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