El Cid Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Some are. It would be better if the likes of Wonga were shut down. Hopefully they will be - I hate their guts. Would they go to Barclays then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staunton Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 The legal loan sharks are worse in many ways. Why not just let people have enough money to meet rising living costs. Good point! But, I am perplexed. I wonder why the coalition government is so palpably unwilling to control the high street loan market? Poverty is big business I fear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-bean Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Surely the record employment figures & mass immigration into the UK by folks arriving to take UK jobs is a clear indication that our policies are working better than in the EU as a whole. Otherwise it would be British unemployed flocking to mainland Europe to take the jobs being created there. They are willing to learnd English, How many "British People" can you see being bothered to learn foreign languages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Barclays, HSBC, Lloyds TSB, RBS, Halifax, Deloitte, KPMG, Price Waterhouse Cooper, Ernst & Young, Vodafone, Boots, Starbucks, Top Shop, Accessorize, Miss Selfridge, Boots, Virgin, Tesco, Asda, Cadbury, Walkers, Diageo, Coca Cola, Pepsi, Schweppes, Associated British Foods, Serco, Amey, Capita, G4S, Care UK, Core Children's Services, Spire Healthcare, Circle Health, Ramsey Health Care, General Healthcare Group, GE Healthcare, Yorkshire Water, Thames Water, Anglian Water, Stagecoach, First, Arriva, Facebook, ebay, Google, Sky, Apple, IBM, Samsung, Microsoft, Ladbrokes, 888, William Hill, Betfred, Money Shop, Caffe Nero, Fortnum and Mason, Primark, Mothercare, Gap... I could go on, and on... ---------- Post added 23-03-2013 at 09:34 ---------- What work? The government's own figures state that there are over two and a half million people without work, and that there are only 500,000 vacancies. And as we all know, most successful job applications are made by those already in work. Firstly ,think how many people are employed in those firms in this country.............that.s one hell of a job base! Secondly we could all get back to work if we undercut the wages of the worlds engine room.... China! Yet another Chinese warehouse has just opened in Leeds(bet it's rammed today despite the snow).Peoples appetite for "stuff" is amazing................just wish we were making it, you can bet that people on benefits here are on a much higher income than those who manufacture goods in China! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Surely the record employment figures & mass immigration into the UK by folks arriving to take UK jobs is a clear indication that our policies are working better than in the EU as a whole. Otherwise it would be British unemployed flocking to mainland Europe to take the jobs being created there. The reason our unemployed aren't heading across the channel is there are no jobs there and they are better off here claiming benefits. But its still the case that we should have control of who and how many we allow in. The Conservatives are doing their best to keep the housing market alive, if we go the same way as the USA ordinary people might be able to afford their own homes. But these days people on benefits are given housing allowances, so they have no need to buy their own house; no aspiration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 People have enough money to live on. no they dont they are seeing their money dwindling further what with bedroom taxes etc How are the legal loan sharks worse? because they have an allie in boy dave losing their jobs, and when they have got nothing left turn to boy daves mates who by chance own payday loan companies nice little earner dont you think:suspect: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Macbeth Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 People have enough money to live on. How are the legal loan sharks worse? They are worse than the best alternative, which is a Credit Union. Most people have enough money to live on. A minority really don't. Part of the problem is that everyone in the same category gets the same amount of actual cash regardless of their living arrangements. Take two single people on basic jobseekers' benefits. That's about £71 a week in their hand to spend. A lives on his own and his £71 has to cover everything, including a loan repayment that he had to take out to pay for a second hand cooker, hopefully not from a loan shark. He will struggle to buy food, pay his water and power bills, and bus fares. Hand to mouth, with no room for emergencies. B has working parents who are happy to have him living in their home and don't charge him anything. He can spend his £71 as he likes. A is likely to need to borrow again in the future, B probably gets the odd hand out from parents. Should B's benefit be reduced and A's increased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-bean Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 They are worse than the best alternative, which is a Credit Union. Most people have enough money to live on. A minority really don't. Part of the problem is that everyone in the same category gets the same amount of actual cash regardless of their living arrangements. Take two single people on basic jobseekers' benefits. That's about £71 a week in their hand to spend. A lives on his own and his £71 has to cover everything, including a loan repayment that he had to take out to pay for a second hand cooker, hopefully not from a loan shark. He will struggle to buy food, pay his water and power bills, and bus fares. Hand to mouth, with no room for emergencies. B has working parents who are happy to have him living in their home and don't charge him anything. He can spend his £71 as he likes. A is likely to need to borrow again in the future, B probably gets the odd hand out from parents. Should B's benefit be reduced and A's increased? I would think there is more A's than B's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staunton Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 Firstly ,think how many people are employed in those firms in this country.............that.s one hell of a job base! That's fine if you are an executive, but not so hot if you are a front line worker. Enterprise is good, a mixed economy is fine. Let's celebrate initiative, enterprise and success. But the idea that multinationals should be allowed to avoid their taxes just because they give people work does not take into account what is really going on. If Starbucks left our shores, there would be room for other cafes to flourish. If Top Shop disappeared, then local companies would stand a chance. If Tesco shut up shop, then our high streets might experience a renaissance. One important aspect of the tax arrangements used by the multinationals is that it gives them an unfair advantage over small and medium enterprises. If you are a local entrepreneur, business owner, small retailer... then you should be very concerned about the unfair tax arrangements enjoyed by the corporate sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Anton Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 But its still the case that we should have control of who and how many we allow in. The Conservatives are doing their best to keep the housing market alive, if we go the same way as the USA ordinary people might be able to afford their own homes. But these days people on benefits are given housing allowances, so they have no need to buy their own house; no aspiration? Well the conservatives have promised a referendum on EU membership. That is our chance to control our borders. If we stay in the EU we cannot stop Rumanians coming here and taking our jobs. Leaving the EU will allow us this right and probably the right to send some of the millions here back where they came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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