Cov Blade Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 The man is clearly a lowlife scumbag. However you seem to applaud his actions. That, has me confused. Why would 'I' applaud his actions? I find this most sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov Blade Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 the eye for an eye attitude hasn't. You've said it's alive and well in your neighbourhood (and Ireland isn't as peaceful as you might think) I never said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalithic Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Well you would have to let me know which definition you are comfortable with before debating that. Some mention morality, some don't. Definitely without morality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Definitely without morality. So, if retribution is so right, proper and important to you what does it actually mean to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalithic Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 So, if retribution is so right, proper and important to you what does it actually mean to you? Full of questions with no opinions you. Revenge, a means to make him feel the pain the tot did. Firstly torture, then a slow prolonged death, then quartered and fed to pigs. That's without giving it any deep thought, i'm sure i could come up with better if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strix Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I never said that. so what was it you WERE getting at when you were calling another forumer 'mealy mouthed'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Full of questions with no opinions you. Revenge, a means to make him feel the pain the tot did. Firstly torture, then a slow prolonged death, then quartered and fed to pigs. That's without giving it any deep thought, i'm sure i could come up with better if necessary. Now you've changed from retribution to revenge. The question remains - what would be the point of that? Do you think all punishments should echo the crimes? Should rapists be raped? Should dangerous drivers be run over? What would you do with insurance fraudsters? People who steal rare bird's eggs? Is it not a goal of a just society that it strive to be better than its criminal element? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov Blade Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 so what was it you WERE getting at when you were calling another forumer 'mealy mouthed'? So, if somebody invaded your home and attacked you. Would you just sit there and complain about it here? Are you that weak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalithic Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Now you've changed from retribution to revenge. Revenge is part of the definition. The question remains - what would be the point of that? Seeing real justice done. Do you think all punishments should echo the crimes? Most certainly, mitigating factors taken into account Should rapists be raped? In an ideal world certainly People who steal rare bird's eggs? Take away their most cherished possessions. I know taking away their children would be the eye for an eye punishment but that impacts the innocent kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Revenge is part of the definition. What definition? You haven't offered one yet? Seeing real justice done. What is unreal about the justice system as it stands? Most certainly, mitigating factors taken into account If you apply mitigating factors then, by definition, the punishments will not echo the crimes will they? In an ideal world certainly What an odd sense of idealism you have - it seems to include a great deal of state-sponsored violence. Take away their most cherished possessions. I know taking away their children would be the eye for an eye punishment but that impacts the innocent kids. Already your model is falling apart then isn't it? If you cannot replicate the crimes for all to feel the pain of their own criminal activity then how do you justify only doing it for some? I'll ask again as you just ignored it last time. Should a just society not strive to be better than its criminal element? How do you feel about some of the barbaric justice handed out by extremist regimes and organisations? Are beheadings and amputations things you would welcome into UK society? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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