mikem8634 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 He apparently became a salesman. NB I'm not his biographer and really this is all out there if people want to look and it's all completely irrelevant to the changes being put in place. The changes are reasonable or they are unreasonable and people will take differing views on that. Whether the responsible minister ever lived on £53 or £2.50 and some stale crisps has no bearing on the matter, it's just childish to suggest it does. Not if the ensuing debate exposes an attitude and a policy that are out of touch and/or out of date. We'll see, I suppose, depending on how far it goes. Mike, I love you. So admirably even-handed. Yes, I think that's a fair assessment of the situation Wow, I'm blushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 What was he selling? Hair restorer,but after a fortnight,he understandably switched to toupes and life insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 The petition was getting something between 20-50 signatures a second when I last looked. The country wants to stick it to these basterdz, and will be finding every opportunity to do so now... If it gets to 10,000,000 I'll be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 What was he selling? He worked for Marconi so could be anything as they were a very diverse company, I bought a lot of System X comms switches from them so might have be those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 He worked for Marconi so could be anything as they were a very diverse company, I bought a lot of System X comms switches from them so might have be those. Marconi would have hired him due to military background-they had many defence contracts in the 1980s with the expansion of smart combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Marconi would have hired him due to military background-they had many defence contracts in the 1980s with the expansion of smart combat. Battlefield comms were a market for them. So it might have been that, or an account manager for BT. I have no idea and it's as with everything else on the thread completely irrelevant to whether the changes to benefits are a good idea or a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Battlefield comms were a market for them. So it might have been that, or an account manager for BT. I have no idea and it's as with everything else on the thread completely irrelevant to whether the changes to benefits are a good idea or a bad idea. The thread is about IDS and his claim he can survive on a pittance-you are trying to pervert the thread's direction.Its a good ploy given what has been posted about this man,but it will not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Battlefield comms were a market for them. So it might have been that, or an account manager for BT. I have no idea and it's as with everything else on the thread completely irrelevant to whether the changes to benefits are a good idea or a bad idea. Matthew Norman at The Independant seems to think it was arms - IDS spent six months on the dole himself after leaving the Army in 1981, yet curiously there is no record of him doing unpaid work to safeguard his self-respect. Obviously, he volunteered for some noble cause, such as shelf-stacking, because the great altruist who eventually found work selling arms for GEC-Marconi would not have lounged around in his jim-jams while the neighbours braved the commute. Perhaps he would care to tell us about these good works. The image of IDS as archetypal welfare scrounger is simply too painful to bear. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/diary/matthew-norman-on-monday-ids-gives-britains-jobless-the-doubts-of-his-benefits-8498773.html I agree, however, that despite giving a degree of insight into his character, it is not strictly relevant to the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Are you suggesting it was a marriage based on expediency?How dare you sully the reputation of the esteemed member for Chingford? As in "So then Iain, what first atracted you to the multimillionairess Betsy Fremantle"? ---------- Post added 02-04-2013 at 21:38 ---------- He lied when compiling his CV claiming to attend the University of Perugia but attended an alternative which did not award degrees.This is deliberate lying or mendacity-hardly consistent with the catholic background he parades. But it is consistent with the political party he joined. Grant Schapps has a number of different aliases I believe - all very strange. Still I suppose that's like some of the trolls on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Matthew Norman at The Independant seems to think it was arms - IDS spent six months on the dole himself after leaving the Army in 1981, yet curiously there is no record of him doing unpaid work to safeguard his self-respect. Obviously, he volunteered for some noble cause, such as shelf-stacking, because the great altruist who eventually found work selling arms for GEC-Marconi would not have lounged around in his jim-jams while the neighbours braved the commute. Perhaps he would care to tell us about these good works. The image of IDS as archetypal welfare scrounger is simply too painful to bear. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/diary/matthew-norman-on-monday-ids-gives-britains-jobless-the-doubts-of-his-benefits-8498773.html I agree, however, that despite giving a degree of insight into his character, it is not strictly relevant to the debate. That's pretty much the Mirrors take on it. So if we can take anything from this childish nonsense it's that the left wing press will demonise and castigate anyone who used to be on the dole if they dare to get a job and better themselves. Hardly socialism in action is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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