Mick Philpott guilty of manslaughter

[alchresearch]

Because we are civilised. It is precisely that which differentiates us from him.

 

Do you not think that a just and civilised society should strive to be better than its criminal element?

 

But that's probably lost on people like him. What do we gain from keeping him in prison? In a few years time they'll be someone else who will come along and do the same.

 

Remember this?

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9007003/Teen-arrested-over-deaths-of-children-in-house-fire-at-mothers-birthday-party.html

 

If the hanging of a guilty man, one found guilty without a shadow of any doubt, prevents someone from even considering something like this in the future, I've no problem with that.

[mikem8634]

But that's probably lost on people like him. What do we gain from keeping him in prison?

 

Thankfully, we are not reliant upon him to underpin our civilisation. That is up to us.

 

We gain justice.

 

It is probably true that another will come along in the future, just like they continue to do in places that impose the death penalty.

[skinz]

But that's probably lost on people like him.

 

This is why he offended and you don't..it isn't lost on you. It will be lost on you if you lower yourself to his level. That's the point mike is making. You operate in a manner which is totally in opposition to that of phillpot.

[alchresearch]

Fair enough, we've had numerous threads on the death penalty on here in the past which have reached no conclusion, I guess this is the same.

[hyper]

I'm not really one for the death penalty, but feel that a life in prison, clothed, fed, sheltered with certain privilidges that many people living moral lives cannot afford is no punishment. I would like to see him pay back to his victims and society by being subjected to medical experiments for the good of mankind for the future.

[Jonny5]

He's going to be denied what keeps him ticking, which is having sex (voluntarily, anyway) and making kids. I don't think he'll like being in jail one little bit.

[skinz]

Fair enough, we've had numerous threads on the death penalty on here in the past which have reached no conclusion, I guess this is the same.

 

They'll always reach a conclusion..they just don't reach agreement...which is fair enough.

[alchresearch]

I'm not really one for the death penalty, but feel that a life in prison, clothed, fed, sheltered with certain privilidges that many people living moral lives cannot afford is no punishment. I would like to see him pay back to his victims and society by being subjected to medical experiments for the good of mankind for the future.

 

That's the point I was getting at.

 

Prison is obviously a deterrent for the civilised individual, but what deterrent is it for those where prison doesn't frighten - where it gives them board & lodging, the chance to socialise with their fraternity, gain status, or segregation.

[boyfriday]

I wasn't asking your opinion on their opinion, I just wonder who that argument was aimed at-it seems to be a lazy way of arguing against the death penalty by suggesting that everyone that thinks it should be used, is just after an extreme punishment.

 

Why is it 'lazy'? It's a point that should be properly considered by people who advocate the death penalty.

 

Many offenders detest prison life so much they choose to end their own, I believe when we had the death penalty, many of those who were executed who had committed the most abhorrent of crimes got off lightly.

[skinz]

I'm not really one for the death penalty, but feel that a life in prison, clothed, fed, sheltered with certain privilidges that many people living moral lives cannot afford is no punishment. I would like to see him pay back to his victims and society by being subjected to medical experiments for the good of mankind for the future.

 

Is that with or without anesthesia?

 

His victims are dead. As for rewarding society you just might find that a good percentage of those will look on the victims as the Devils spawn and deserve no sympathy.