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So you are using e-cigs as a nicotine-delivery system instead of cigarettes/tobacco?

 

... and you choose to say that you have 'stopped/quit' smoking?

 

Good for you and all others that have improved their personal health as a result.

 

It doesn't give you any right to mock and denigrate those qualified and experienced professionals that are simply pointing out:

 

  • you are still addicted to nicotine
  • the long term effects are unknown
  • possible harm to 3rd parties are unknown
  • sellers should not make any 'medical' claims about e-cigs
  • sweet-tasting flavours (just like menthol cigarettes) increase the likelihood of youngsters adopting it as an easier path to nicotine addiction

 

That's all they are saying.

 

We all know that the risks linked with using mobile phones too but we are still using them. They're still sold to us as a commodity. Why? Money. Exactly the same reason why e-cigs are under this threat.

 

There's overwhelming evidence that says e-cigs are about 1000 times better for you than real cigarettes.

 

I'll place a bet, and I'm prepared to put everything I own on it. Once one of the big pharmacy companies start selling these things, there'll be no questioning the health qualities.

 

---------- Post added 27-08-2014 at 08:58 ----------

 

They (e-cigs, although I hate that name, it sounds so naff) might be safe, but many years ago we thought that smoking was safe, beneficial even. Until they are rigorously tested, some organisations are erring on the side of caution. You can't use them on the bus either.

 

Things have changed a bit since people thought smoking was safe.

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I started using a mirage e-cig on the 3rd of June this year after smoking for 25 years and I haven't even been tempted to smoke.

I tried numerous times to stop smoking using other methods but always started again after about 6 weeks.

IMO e-cigs do help you to stop smoking.

 

It's almost exactly a year since I last smoked a cigarette thanks to e-cigs, and I'd been on 30+ a day for more than 40 years.

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Im pretty sure Lloyds and boots sell e.cigs.

 

Tesco sell them from the impulse purchase shelf at the in-store pharmacy too.

 

---------- Post added 31-08-2014 at 17:05 ----------

 

Or so you believe. You cannot say for certain though, can you?!

 

No, but you can base an assumption on some certainties we already know about.:

 

E cigarettes function by heating propylene glycol and glycerine to create a mist.

 

Theatrical effect fog machines work in precisely the same way, and can be scented with popular aromas just like 'e-fluid' (the nicotine containing solution e-cigs all use).

 

The only differences between the two are:

an e-cig produces a miniscule fraction of the quantity of mist produced by a 'smoke-machine'.

an e-cig's mist contains nicotine, which the "smoke-machine"'s mist does not.

 

Users of non inhaled, non-carcinogenic nicotine products suffer no ill effects from the nicotine, but appear to have a lower risk of alzheimer's and parkinson's disease.

 

The question is really, how damaging is inhaling PG/VG mist? Not damaging enough for them to ban 'smoke machines' - yet.

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At the risk of repeating myself, the tobacco barons really missed out on E-cigs. Tobacco barons want increased warnings on about e-cigs, possibly legislation against them and higher taxes to bolster their profits because they are being gnawed at. Secondly, the government would love to tax them the same as tobacco products.

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