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This is getting quite a bit of publicity this morning:

 

Scientists have called for urgent controls on the promotion and sale of e-cigarettes to children after finding high rates of usage among secondary school pupils in the region.

 

In a survey of more than 16,000 teenagers in north-west England, the researchers found that one in five students aged 14 to 17 had bought or tried e-cigarettes. Many of those who dabbled with vaping were already regular smokers.

 

Why bought OR tried? Why not just tried, surely that is the only important thing to measure?

 

It makes me deeply suspicious about the motives behind this "survey".

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In the news today:

 

E-cigarettes can be key weapon against smoking, say MPs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45212444#comp-comments-button

 

Fair enough, I can't argue with that.

 

However:

 

Rules around e-cigarettes should be relaxed so they can be more widely used and accepted in society, says a report by MPs.

 

The report also asks the government to consider their use on buses and trains.

 

Accepted in society? Haven't we spent the last how ever many years trying to make the point that smoking isn't acceptable?

 

The last thing I want is to be trapped on a bus or train with vapers clouding the air.

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So, with the NHS & our Government recommending their use, does that mean that we will all be liable to pay out the compensation claims that will start appearing in 10 years or so?

 

Just stick to the line that they are better than smoking cigarettes, but using nothing is best and do nothing to encourage their use in public.

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In the news today:

 

E-cigarettes can be key weapon against smoking, say MPs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45212444#comp-comments-button

 

Fair enough, I can't argue with that.

 

However:

 

 

 

Accepted in society? Haven't we spent the last how ever many years trying to make the point that smoking isn't acceptable?

 

The last thing I want is to be trapped on a bus or train with vapers clouding the air.

 

Exactly! I vape but see no reason to re-introduce nicotine consumption in the places its already been banned from. It can only encourage more usage.

Unfortunately now the big tobacco companies are on board the vape wagon they will be 'lobbying' MPs hard and will probably win.

A bit like how gambling rules were relaxed amid the gambling companies claims that gambling addiction wont increase. Ooops

 

---------- Post added 29-08-2018 at 10:32 ----------

 

Should E-cig shops be subject to more stringent planning rules regarding the number of them allowed to open in a given area?

Smokers wanting to move on to e-cigs to help them quit will seek out an e-cig shop, but once they become a very regular feature on every local high street could non-smokers (particularly the young) start to see vaping as the norm and be enticed in to have a sample? Many of these shops have signs outside saying come in and try for free!

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Sneaky vapers are starting to affect my health.

I have life long history of lung conditions.

I could never go on nights out with smokers and then they banned smoking in public places. Yippee!!! 

Now we have  sneaky  vapers who are again selfish enough to  try to hide themsevles vaping  but, they forget they have  to breathe out!!  Its a very selfish attitude to vape or smoke anywhere public. The chemicals / aerosols used in vapes affect my breathing along with many others who have lung conditions too.

Go outside please! Or stop complately.  Its not right and its not fair. 

 

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1 hour ago, Jason302 said:

Sneaky vapers are starting to affect my health.

I have life long history of lung conditions.

I could never go on nights out with smokers and then they banned smoking in public places. Yippee!!! 

Now we have  sneaky  vapers who are again selfish enough to  try to hide themsevles vaping  but, they forget they have  to breathe out!!  Its a very selfish attitude to vape or smoke anywhere public. The chemicals / aerosols used in vapes affect my breathing along with many others who have lung conditions too.

Go outside please! Or stop complately.  Its not right and its not fair. 

 

 Where I live vaping is banned in all places smoking is and so is smoking marijuana, which is now legal in Canada. However, vaping releases so much vapour that even outside it stinks worse than  tobacco smoke. I sympathise with you as I also have COPD, but mine is self-induced, having smoked for many years. I have been stopped for about 5 years, but my wife vapes.

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Some clever person needs to invent a vape mouth piece that after youve breathed in the vapour, you breath out through the mouthpiece and it filters all the vape out so no vapour is released to the air.  Much easier to snide a toke and stop non vapers moaning about polluting their air

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