MrSmith Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 By setting the minimum wage to the living wage level for a start Right, so we increase the minimum wage making no one better off, and in doing so we increase unemployment because some companies will just move abroad. That sounds like aplan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crosser Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Cue..... A mod saying...... keep on topic please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Cue..... A mod saying...... keep on topic please Minimum wage rises 'could hit jobs' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-172436/Minimum-wage-rises-hit-jobs.html We are on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Instead of countries having local economies, we now have multinationals that trade worldwide. So the workers in this country, are competing with the workers in China and Japan; so yes, its a race downwards. In the original post I gave examples of Asda and Tescos, and although I acknowledge that asking for £20 per hour would make the country uncompetitive, and make Tescos and Asda think twice about opening a new store I doubt whther they would threaten to go abroad as they have millions of consumers over here. Rather than capitualte to the ideolgy promoted in the Daily Mail which has led to a huge gap between rich and poor should there not be some sense of fair play? And I still don't understand how bosses can be too poor to pay a decent wage but rich enough to belong to the richest 10%. Incidentally Germany has remained fairly competitive without sacrificing standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 In the original post I gave examples of Asda and Tescos, and although I acknowledge that asking for £20 per hour would make the country uncompetitive, and make Tescos and Asda think twice about opening a new store I doubt whther they would threaten to go abroad as they have millions of consumers over here. Rather than capitualte to the ideolgy promoted in the Daily Mail which has led to a huge gap between rich and poor should there not be some sense of fair play? And I still don't understand how bosses can be too poor to pay a decent wage but rich enough to belong to the richest 10%. Have you not seen those self service tills, maybe they would just open more and do away with the till staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 It would have made no difference whatsoever. What you are implying is Phillpot's social awareness is based on his ability to care about what is wrong and what is right. Removing access to the benefits system would have no impact on any wrong or right decision. Phillpot for all intense and purpose would procreate regardless of any responsibility the general population take. Phillpots mentality is, 'my responsibility ends when I knock her up'. Now if you're proposing castration as a solution to his, or anyone like his antics, then that's a whole new question. As a social force collectively, it is our responsibility to make sure the innocent (children) of his actions are not ignored. You may have a problem with trashy 'kids' but that's how it works. Hold on, how come mr smith isn't allowed to definately claim that philpott was a product of the benefits system but you can say he definately would have had kids regardless ? Neither of you know ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Minimum wage rises 'could hit jobs' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-172436/Minimum-wage-rises-hit-jobs.html We are on topic. That article was from 2003/2004, not withstanding the banking crisis (which was not caused by low paid workers), has the minimum wage rise cost the UK jobs ---------- Post added 04-04-2013 at 22:18 ---------- Have you not seen those self service tills, maybe they would just open more and do away with the till staff. Yes you're quite right Mr Smith, instead of having minimum wage and minimum standards low paid staff of tescos and Asda should have no rights; and the customers should be allowed to verbally abuse them as this would no doubt increase their custom and stop supermarkets bringing in self service tills. Incidentally how are bosses too poor to pay a decent wage but rich enough to belong to the richest 10%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 That article was from 2003/2004, not withstanding the banking crisis (which was not caused by low paid workers), has the minimum wage rise cost the UK jobs Apparently. The national minimum wage has led to 78,000 job losses on the High Street, the British Retail Consortium has said. UK considers cut in minimum wage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crosser Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Apparently. The national minimum wage has led to 78,000 job losses on the High Street, the British Retail Consortium has said. UK considers cut in minimum wage Of course it has, the doleys, disabled & terminally ill are doing them for nothing except the threat of abject poverty. That's great (!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Hold on, how come mr smith isn't allowed to definately claim that philpott was a product of the benefits system but you can say he definately would have had kids regardless ? Neither of you know ! I don't think I claimed he was definitely a product of the benefits system, but you do make a very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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