MrSmith Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 So manslaughter not murder; still seems wrong compared to stealing... perhaps it's just me. Yes, we definitely don't have our priorities right there, he should have been locked up for life in 1978 when he tried to kill his girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeweller Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 But will the copper DO more time inside?Because I would bet he won't. As far as im concerned,the copper dealt out a lot of smack,and god only knows how many people died from overdoses due to this. You simply cannot compare two different crimes with different charges with one another.Do you think every sentence is given based on all other sentences that have ever been passed?(no matter what the crime). No, that's exactly the problem, and the OP's point is exactly this. We can compare two different crimes when each sentence doesn't reflect the crime, we need a fair justice system. Lets forget the coppers case then. Is life with a minum of 15 years a fair sentence in your eyes? Dont tell ne no, but thats the courts choice. What do you believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Do you actually believe this? In 15 years he will have the right to go before the parole board. They wont let him out. Reminds of the train gaurd that failed to do his job properly, and a drunken teenager was killed. He got 5 years. You would think that the sentence should be much higher for being responsible for the death of six children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airking Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I had no idea of the longest serving manslaughter case,I was just saying you don't seem to hear of long sentences given. I've known someone who got a suspended sentence for manslaughter, I've known someone who got four years and I've known someone who got life. There are different grades of severity for manslaughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The scummer from Derby didn't go down for murder. Somehow doesn't ring right coming from you jfk.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crosser Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I think the coppers sentence was just, due to the fact he was profiting from drugs, but moreso because he was a policeman and therefore corrupt. It's irrelevant anyway, because he'll be out in less than ten (for the same reason) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeweller Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 They wont let him out. Reminds of the train gaurd that failed to do his job properly, and a drunken teenager was killed. He got 5 years. You would think that the sentence should be much higher for being responsible for the death of six children. The parole board are all about change and remorse. If he can convince them he is sorry, and that it was a mistake that he will have to live with forever, then yes he will be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Do you actually believe this? In 15 years he will have the right to go before the parole board. He will play the game, act sorry and go free. But as far as someone of us are concerned, sorry is never enough. Do you know how many prisoners remain incarcerated having served the minimum tariff of their sentence? A minority of offenders are released on serving the minimum sentence and some serve many years past it with little prospect of release, I would have thought someone like Philpott would find it difficult to convince the Parole Board he's suitable for release given the nature of the offence, his character and antecedence. This from the ministry of justice: "A total of 3,538 (60 per cent) IPP prisoners had passed their tariff expiry date.2 http://www.justice.gov.uk/statistics/prisons-and-probation/oms-quarterly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLADE8T1 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 No, that's exactly the problem, and the OP's point is exactly this. We can compare two different crimes when each sentence doesn't reflect the crime, we need a fair justice system. Lets forget the coppers case then. Is life with a minum of 15 years a fair sentence in your eyes? Dont tell ne no, but thats the courts choice. What do you believe? Its not physically possible to compare every sentence,that was my point(how many sentences were passed this week alone?) And I would give him the maximum that I could.Don't go thinking im a soft touch,its the making comparisons that I have a problem with. ---------- Post added 04-04-2013 at 21:25 ---------- I've known someone who got a suspended sentence for manslaughter, I've known someone who got four years and I've known someone who got life. There are different grades of severity for manslaughter. life without parole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The parole board are all about change and remorse. If he can convince them he is sorry, and that it was a mistake that he will have to live with forever, then yes he will be released. That's a slightly flawed view of how Parole Board reviews work, they're a dedicated bunch of legal professionals, probation and independent members. They also take evidence from psychiatrists and the prison records/officers who were responsible for the offenders supervision during his incarceration. Arriving at review board with a road to Damascus demeanour won't convince them of anything unless there's evidence to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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