Benefits in Britain. fact and fiction

[I1L2T3]

Some might not claim anything like this man.

 

John Pickard, 64, was claiming benefits including incapacity benefit while not declaring he was working as a claims processor at the job centre, which a Norwich Crown Court judge described as “bizarre”.

 

On his own claims forms he insisted that a knee operation made it impossible for him to work. He claimed incapacity benefit and a raft of other payouts, including pension credits, housing and council tax benefits.

 

 

For all we know all 900,000 were cheats and have stopped claiming out of fear of being found out.

 

It's unlikely. Because one is a fraudster it doesn't mean they all are.

 

It's the same flawed logic used in Osborne's use of the Philpotts.

[MrSmith]

It's unlikely. Because one is a fraudster it doesn't mean they all are.

 

It's the same flawed logic used in Osborne's use of the Philpotts.

 

It also doesn't mean they are not, the 900,000 clearly have a reason for not attending the medical, we will never know if they were fiddling or not.

We only know about the fraudsters when they are found out and if this one worked in the job centre and stayed undetected for five years between 2005 and 2010, so what’s the chance of catching a self-employed window cleaner or builder.

 

The cheat claimed thousands of pounds for an alleged 'bad back' over seven years an investigation has revealed, raking up nearing £29,000 in incapacity benefits.

[tinfoilhat]

It also doesn't mean they are not, the 900,000 clearly have a reason for not attending the medical, we will never know if they were fiddling or not.

We only know about the fraudsters when they are found out and if this one worked in the job centre and stayed undetected for five years between 2005 and 2010, so what’s the chance of catching a self-employed window cleaner or builder.

 

By that logic then there are another 900,000 people in work which would indicate an economy in rude health, which it clearly isn't.

[andygardener]

It's unlikely. Because one is a fraudster it doesn't mean they all are.

 

It's the same flawed logic used in Osborne's use of the Philpotts.

 

Maybe they all magically got better when the coalition made it clear Labours benefits gravy train was over?

[Mister M]

Another Fact often not splashed across the tabloids is that £16 billion of benefits and tax credits go unclaimed each year, while just over £1 billion per year is defrauded.

[I1L2T3]

It also doesn't mean they are not, the 900,000 clearly have a reason for not attending the medical, we will never know if they were fiddling or not.

We only know about the fraudsters when they are found out and if this one worked in the job centre and stayed undetected for five years between 2005 and 2010, so what’s the chance of catching a self-employed window cleaner or builder.

 

The cheat claimed thousands of pounds for an alleged 'bad back' over seven years an investigation has revealed, raking up nearing £29,000 in incapacity benefits.

 

In all likelihood there were not 900,000 fraudsters. Sorry.

[MrSmith]

By that logic then there are another 900,000 people in work which would indicate an economy in rude health, which it clearly isn't.

 

People doing undeclared work aren’t included in GDP; in fact many self employed people aren’t included in GDP, some companies aren’t included in GDP. GDP isn't a measure of all economic activity.

[I1L2T3]

Maybe they all magically got better when the coalition made it clear Labours benefits gravy train was over?

 

As I stated earlier the incapacity gravy train grew rapidly under the Tories in the 90s. Maybe them using Atos was just trying to clear up their mess from the last time they were in power.

[MrSmith]

In all likelihood there were not 900,000 fraudsters. Sorry.

 

We will never know.

[I1L2T3]

People doing undeclared work aren’t included in GDP; in fact many self employed people aren’t included in GDP, some companies aren’t included in GDP. GDP isn't a measure of all economic activity.

 

Look up GDP on Google.