Margaret Thatcher Thread - Read the first post before posting

[MrSmith]

See, you can't actually answer the question, can you?

 

She did nothing good!

 

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That's not the point.

 

The way she dealt with the whole thing was barbaric. She didn't have an ounce of respect or compassion.

It could have been dealt with better, much better. The industry was in slow decline, coal was cheaper to import, so she went for the kill to make some quick easy money.

 

You mean like the respect and compassion the striking miners showed to the non striking miner.

[Bonzo77]

In 1979, 42% of the British population lived in council housing[/url]. These days, the figure is a mere 12%, with another 6% renting their home from housing associations and cooperatives.

 

Why is this a good statistic?? Wouldn't you rather live in a country that can afford to house 42% of it's population??

 

Private ownership is a relatively new thing for a large proportion of the population.

 

Owning your own home seems to be a British thing. Renting properties is the norm throughout the most of Europe.

[I1L2T3]

Show me the process that would have caused house prices to rise even without labour, lowing interest rates, demolishing houses, increasing the population, not building houses, buy to let, claiming that boom and bust was thing of the past.

 

I've already explained how the culture in the city was relevant. I've also given you a link from a Tory paper, a link that traces current problems in the City back to 1986. All you need to do now is make the connection that it was banks with HQs in the city that did the lending, leveraged the mortgages and took massive risks. They are part of the story of the housing bubble whether you like it or not.

[eastbank]

Name a single good thing that thatcher did?

 

got rid of school milk...kids hated it

improved the air quality in sheffield....by shutting the steelworks and orgreave coking plant

tidied up the lower don valley and made way for meadowhall...

made going to football safer...

and gave away nice council houses...

[Bonzo77]

You mean like the respect and compassion the striking miners showed to the non striking miner.

 

Yes.

 

It's funny what can happen to someone when they are threatened with having their world pulled from beneath their feet and you're forced into a corner, isn't it? It's a bit like being bullied.

 

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got rid of school milk...kids hated it

improved the air quality in sheffield....by shutting the steelworks and orgreave coking plant

tidied up the lower don valley and made way for meadowhall...

made going to football safer...

and gave away nice council houses...

 

I loved my milk at 'playschool', and my free biscuit!

 

How building Meadowhall can be classed as tiding somewhere up is beyond me! Plus, it's slowly causing the demise of the city center.

 

The football was made safer at the cost of 96 Liverpool fans.

[EASTWOOD141]

Name a single good thing that thatcher did?

 

Ruin this country.

[MrSmith]

I've already explained how the culture in the city was relevant. I've also given you a link from a Tory paper, a link that traces current problems in the City back to 1986. All you need to do now is make the connection that it was banks with HQs in the city that did the lending, leveraged the mortgages and took massive risks. They are part of the story of the housing bubble whether you like it or not.

 

No answer then as usual, didn't the bank of England have the remit to control inflation, it’s a pity Gordon Brown removed house price inflation from those figure, if he had left them alone the Bank of England would have stopped the bubble by increasing interest rates. You simply can't blame Gordon Browns bad choices on Margret Thatcher.

[denlin]

You mean like the respect and compassion the striking miners showed to the non striking miner.

 

You mean those who betrayed their own for selfish reasoms and, incidentally, the Nottinghamshire miners who helped her defeat the rest were the first to be shut. Perhaps ypu would like to explain to the families of those who committed suicide due to her your wonderful philosophy. My friend knew somebody who actually did and I know someone who lost their business. Hey but never mind how many lives she ruined or ended lets all contribute to her funeral whether we object or not - that's democracy for you

[MrSmith]

Yes.

 

It's funny what can happen to someone when they are threatened with having their world pulled from beneath their feet and you're forced into a corner, isn't it? It's a bit like being bullied.

 

Yes and that’s precisely what the NUM did, it bullied miners into strike action and intimidated those that wouldn't do as they were told.

I’ve been made redundant several times and at no time did I feel the need to kick someone’s head in, smash their window, intimidated women and children. Something these bave NUM members did to anyone that wouldn't support their cause.

[denlin]

Yes and that’s precisely what the NUM did, it bullied miners into strike action and intimidated those that wouldn't do as they were told.

I’ve been made redundant several times and at no time did I feel the need to kick someone’s head in, smash their window, intimidated women and children. Something these bave NUM members did to anyone that wouldn't support their cause.

 

So have I but when you got nade redundant you got paid, when you are on strike you get no money