MrSmith Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I'm at a loss here. I've read the article and nowhere does it suggest that Romanians or any other specific EU nationals are in any way involved. where on earth has this rubbish come from and why? Here y go http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/51499087/#51499087 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Thing is no-ones word or evidence is good enough for you, yet in return you expect others to take yours at face value. You've repeatedly shown that. It's utterly futile conversing with you. Did you read what the poster said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 As a native French speaker, <...> No mention whatsoever of the nationality of these voleurs à la tire.Corrected for accuracy Why don't you just admit that you want it to be Roma people, but have no evidence Andygardener? Enough is enough now. Link (get your Google translate). Excerpt: Ces voleurs, ont témoigné plusieurs agents, sont souvent des mineurs d'Europe de l'Est qui entrent dans le musée, gratuit pour les moins de 26 ans. Translation: These thiefs, many agents have testified, are often East European minors who enter the museum, which is free access for under-26s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 That's better, a bit of evidence now, I'm happy to accept that. I would prefer to see somebody accountable actually attributed to a quote, but I believe the sources offered to be credible and thorough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 They're going to end up closing our fishing lakes too. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-22104151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 They're going to end up closing our fishing lakes too. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-22104151 It is a disgrace that the poor man is having his fish stolen and anybody responsible should be held accountable. However, his methodology for protecting his stock is flawed. It is simply impossible to justify holding all Eastern Europeans accountable for the criminal actions of a few. Would he have the same objection if a certain Mr. Abramovich wanted to exclusively book the complex at twice the normal price? Can anybody explain to me how that sign would be any more effective than one that said Don't Steal the Fish? It is almost as though he was more concerned with being inflammatory. Has anybody ever made a convincing case that all people from any particular geographical location are the same? Is there any evidence whatsoever to back that idea up? It's time to let illogical generalisation go, and for those who think it isn't illogical ask youself some questions - Are you the same as every member of your family and are you happy to be judged by their behaviour and standards? How about everyone in your street? Or your city? County? Country? Part of Europe? Hemisphere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 It is a disgrace that the poor man is having his fish stolen and anybody responsible should be held accountable. However, his methodology for protecting his stock is flawed. It is simply impossible to justify holding all Eastern Europeans accountable for the criminal actions of a few. He didn't hold them all accountable, just the ones that go fishing. It’s been an ongoing problem for years, eastern Europeans eat or sell the fish instead of putting them back. Enraged fishermen were stunned after eastern European immigrants were given a ”rough guide” to find the best lakes for poaching English fish. A Russian-language newspaper urged its migrant readers living in England to avoid shopping in supermarkets and ”catch their own” fish instead. British rivers stripped of fish by East European poachers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 It is a disgrace that the poor man is having his fish stolen and anybody responsible should be held accountable. However, his methodology for protecting his stock is flawed. It is simply impossible to justify holding all Eastern Europeans accountable for the criminal actions of a few. Would he have the same objection if a certain Mr. Abramovich wanted to exclusively book the complex at twice the normal price? Can anybody explain to me how that sign would be any more effective than one that said Don't Steal the Fish? It is almost as though he was more concerned with being inflammatory. Has anybody ever made a convincing case that all people from any particular geographical location are the same? Is there any evidence whatsoever to back that idea up? It's time to let illogical generalisation go, and for those who think it isn't illogical ask youself some questions - Are you the same as every member of your family and are you happy to be judged by their behaviour and standards? How about everyone in your street? Or your city? County? Country? Part of Europe? Hemisphere? Eastern europeans are stealing his fish, I think they probably know he doesn't want his fish stolen. I agree that putting a sign up won't work, he needs effective security and a few examples made of the eastern european thieves to show them they are not welcome to steal his fish or come near his lake. It's a crying shame that decent hardworking Britons have to put in place expensive security against these people invited in by the last government in order to try to make a living and it's obscene that he may face prosecution for the ineffective sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqueakyPete Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 They don't just stop a fish either,I saw an interview the other day with a farmer that was having his sheep stolen.I understand they have to live/eat,but these stories are just wrong on so many levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 They don't just stop a fish either,I saw an interview the other day with a farmer that was having his sheep stolen.I understand they have to live/eat,but these stories are just wrong on so many levels. Amazing that pickpockets in Paris can steal sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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