We need to close down businesses in Sheffield.

[chem1st]

We are told that the closure of the pits made economic sense.

 

Taxpayers were subsidising the mining industry to the tune of £1.3 billion annually. This figure doesn’t include the vast cost to taxpayer-funded industries such as steel and electricity which were obliged to buy British coal.

 

But when Arthur Scargill appeared before a Parliamentary committee and was asked at what level of loss it was acceptable to close a pit he answered “As far as I can see, the loss is without limits.”

 

Today, when I look at the world, I see many many people who make a living out of government subsidies.

 

Landlords are raking in billions per year in government subsidies.

Supermarkets are often utilising many forms of government subsidy.

The likes of A4E are running on government subsidies.

And many many more businesses and employers use subsidies.

 

By not paying proper wages, tax credits are used to top people's income up to what is deemed acceptable by daddy state. Massive amounts of employers are not paying proper wages and government subsidy in the form of tax credits is being used to subsidise these businesses.

 

Too many businesses in Sheffield are uneconomical and running on government subsidy. We need to remove these subsidies and shut these businesses down.

 

What do you think?

[rossyrooney]

I think you make a valid point,the likes of A4E made millions for its owner by running what was found to be no more than a cowboy outfit.

 

Perhaps if a nationwide check was made of each invoice presented for payment the government would get a surprise,and of course the jobs created would pay for themselves if some were found to be inflated.

 

It would certainly make a change from picking on the working man.

[Scozzie]

Let's close down Sheffield and all move to the beach! Yay!

 

Sounds like a plan to me!

[rossyrooney]

Let's close down Sheffield and all move to the beach! Yay!

 

Sounds like a plan to me!

 

 

Me too:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[tinfoilhat]

I think you make a valid point,the likes of A4E made millions for its owner by running what was found to be no more than a cowboy outfit.

 

Perhaps if a nationwide check was made of each invoice presented for payment the government would get a surprise,and of course the jobs created would pay for themselves if some were found to be inflated.

 

It would certainly make a change from picking on the working man.

 

But the working man would suffer. If a small business puts an invoice in, 30 days is more than long enough, adding another department of verifying this sort of thing could turn 30 days into 90.

[go4it]

Landlords are raking in billions per year in government subsidies.

Supermarkets are often utilising many forms of government subsidy.

The likes of A4E are running on government subsidies.

And many many more businesses and employers use subsidies.

 

Lets abolish housing benefit then.

Lets stop supermarkets recruiting staff

Lets stop A4E getting people back to work

Lets just stop all together

 

You can subsidise an industry that makes money - people use supermarkets everyday. Back in the 80s nobody wanted British coal.

 

By not paying proper wages, tax credits are used to top people's income up to what is deemed acceptable by daddy state. Massive amounts of employers are not paying proper wages and government subsidy in the form of tax credits is being used to subsidise these businesses.

 

There is a minimum wage - a very high minimum wage.

 

Don't you see that part of the problem with this country is that we have people demanding £7/8 per hour for basic jobs, and wanting paid holidays, flexible working weeks and childcare options included as well?

 

In the USA a waitress will get probably $3 per hour, and will have to work hard to make up their wage through tips.

[rossyrooney]

But the working man would suffer. If a small business puts an invoice in, 30 days is more than long enough, adding another department of verifying this sort of thing could turn 30 days into 90.

 

 

It would take minutes to pass,what i meant is scrutinise each one and if it is kosher then pass it,if it looks outlandish then pass it on to be investigated,much the same as is done by your average business.

 

The A4E debacle was proof of what can be saved if you keep a check on things.

[max]

 

There is a minimum wage - a very high minimum wage.

 

Don't you see that part of the problem with this country is that we have people demanding £7/8 per hour for basic jobs, and wanting paid holidays, flexible working weeks and childcare options included as well?

 

In the USA a waitress will get probably $3 per hour, and will have to work hard to make up their wage through tips.

 

Why, if this minimum wage is so high, do people qualify for working tax credits?

 

Do you think people should work without enjoying the benefits of paid holidays, flexible working weeks and childcare options?

 

In the USA the minimum wage is between $7 and $9 an hour depending on the state in which you work.

[Penistone999]

Let's close down Sheffield !

 

The council are doing a fantastic job of this all by themselves.

[buck]

Lets abolish housing benefit then.

Lets stop supermarkets recruiting staff

Lets stop A4E getting people back to work

Lets just stop all together

 

You can subsidise an industry that makes money - people use supermarkets everyday. Back in the 80s nobody wanted British coal.

 

 

 

There is a minimum wage - a very high minimum wage.

 

Don't you see that part of the problem with this country is that we have people demanding £7/8 per hour for basic jobs, and wanting paid holidays, flexible working weeks and childcare options included as well?

 

In the USA a waitress will get probably $3 per hour, and will have to work hard to make up their wage through tips.

And she'll be a lot friendlier than yours. She will have earned a lot more than $3.00 an hour by the end of her working day. I generally give a 20% tip, and so do many others. In some of the really expensive restaurants the waitstaff pay the owners to work there. The tips alone make it worthwhile. They don't have to worry about the minimum wage law since they act as self employed contractors. When it is insisted by law that a certain percentage of your bill must be applied to gratuity, you are condemned to the kind of service you get in Britain. Suppose four of us go out to dinner at a moderately priced restaurant. salad and entree $15.00 each, $5.00 each dessert, coffee $3.00, liquor $5.00. That's a total of $112.00, a tip of around $22.00 for the waitress. In that time she will have served three other tables. The three dollars will buy her a cup of coffee, even if she had to pay for it, which I doubt. Over time, the waiters and waitresses who serve you regularly at your favorite places become your personal friends.