truman Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Antelopes run fast and die young. You seem to mistake the ability to run fast with health. I imagine many of those who compete in the World's Strongest Man competition won't make 60 Some don't get to 30... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Antelopes run fast and die young. I dont believe that they die from heart disease or diabetes !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliceBB Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I think all you can really say about the supposed link between wealth and health is that the well-educated eat better, live more healthily and die older, whereas the less well-educated tend to do the opposite. There is of course a general, but not invariable, connection between wealth and educational opportunity/achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I dont believe that they die from heart disease or diabetes !! Biggest cause of death in Kenya is AIDS followed by stroke and then heart disease: http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/country-health-profile/kenya in Ethiopia it's Influenza, Stroke, Coronary Heart Disease http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/country-health-profile/ethiopia In fact playing around with the tools on that site it looks like Kenya's record on deaths from diabetes and heart disease is worse than ours.. http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/world-health-review/kenya-vs-united-kingdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Biggest cause of death in Kenya is AIDS followed by stroke and then heart disease: 5% die from heart disease, in the UK its 20% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 5% die from heart disease, in the UK its 20% Only because less Kenyans live long enough for heart disease to be as prevelant..Have a look at the age standardised death rate.. Kenya is dropping down the world rankings on life expectancy..in 1960 it was 112th now it's 157th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Btw genetics has a lot to do with why Ethiopians make good long distance runners, same as the Kenyans. All things being equal means access to better food and also a more active happier social life which has a big impact on mental health and stress. So all things being equal my answer is definitely not. that said health isnt all about money, but it os a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsafan Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Hi We have just seen an Ethiopian win the London Marathon, with other Ethiopians finishing in the top ten. The winner was one of thirteen children, very poor. I assume that he would not have had the MMR to keep him well, and all the other benefits of the rich countries. Our own Olympic gold medalist was from a very poor country. Does our wealth make us lazy and in poor health? It is also not about the state of the government too, but it is also genetic to some degree. http://www.drchasewebber.com/diet-nutrition/lchf-diet/step1-eataccordingtoyourgeneticbodytype I think there are a lot of endomorphs in our country, and they do not necessarily work out as hard to maintain the weight down. Therefore obesity is seemingly a "poor" working class issue. In actual fact, these information are available everywhere now, so there is also no reason to associate this as a class thing either. It means one need discipline in order to maintain one's health. It also makes sense that as endomorphs, they can do strong manual work because of the amount of muscle that they actually have. In having this, I can see and understand why say in Sheffield, there used to be a high number of miners who then actually become overweight over the years. The other thing is, when one eats more than they can use and need, it adds to the degree of sugar level imbalance and it causes metabolic syndrome to happen. http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/metabolic-syndrome/Pages/Introduction.aspx This explains why the diet of fish and chips, and with beer is BAD for you especially if you no longer work in a hard manual job such as mining. The thing is, it may actually be historically a class thing, or people associated it as a class thing, but in effect, people's diets are tied to culture too. If you have always had carbs like potatoes and so forth for generations, then it is unlikely that you can move away from this without a form of self discipline. People do not think too much about their health in this regard and to stick with it. That is the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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