Chris_Sleeps Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Not in so many words,but the fact you are even questioning someones pride would suggest otherwise. Asking questions is not the same as saying that you have no right be proud of something, and you're foolish to put the idea forward. Answer or don't. Silly games ain't my bag. And as far as I can see,he answered you,but you still persist to question him.Is it not the answer you wanted?How would you like him to answer? It's a discussion. Ask me a question, I'll answer it. I'm open to things like that. Yes mate,your quite right,being accidentally born English doesn't give me the right to be a proud Englishman. Would that do you? Why answer that way if you don't really think like that? Silly behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqueakyPete Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Asking questions is not the same as saying that you have no right be proud of something, and you're foolish to put the idea forward. Answer or don't. Silly games ain't my bag. It's a discussion. Ask me a question, I'll answer it. I'm open to things like that. Why answer that way if you don't really think like that? Silly behavior. Give over with yourself,you know full well you wasn't asking your questions with an open mind,and a 50/50 view.Play innocent silly beggars all you like. ---------- Post added 24-04-2013 at 15:01 ---------- Asking questions is not the same as saying that you have no right be proud of something, and you're foolish to put the idea forward. Answer or don't. Silly games ain't my bag. It's a discussion. Ask me a question, I'll answer it. I'm open to things like that. Why answer that way if you don't really think like that? Silly behavior. Because it wasn't a serious answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Give over with yourself,you know full well you wasn't asking your questions with an open mind,and a 50/50 view.Play innocent silly beggars all you like. That's your assumption. *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 That's your assumption. *shrugs* So why can't someone be proud to be English ?do you have an issue being proud to be Irish or Indian or American or French? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 So why can't someone be proud to be English ? I haven't said that. Am I speaking a foreign language here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Why? How can you be proud of something that you've only achieved through accident of birth? Can you explain this bit then. It seems to think people shouldn't be proud to be English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Can you explain this bit then. Certainly. They are questions. They are not my position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Certainly. They are questions. They are not my position. What is you position? Are you proud to be English? If not (your choice, I'm not judging ) why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 What is you position? Are you proud to be English? Not overly, although some things touch me. Orwell, Bertrand Russell, The Beatles. I don't understand patriotism though, I'm immune to it. It's never got through to me. I should also add that I don't think patriotism is ugly be default. It's a complex set of beliefs sometimes, a philosophical mask which can easily hide something ugly or something beautiful behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Not overly, although some things touch me. Orwell, Bertrand Russell, The Beatles. I don't understand patriotism though, I'm immune to it. It's never got through to me. Fair enough, honest answer. Is it just the English/st georges day thing or don't you get any country's national pride ? Just seen the last bit, and agree. I think it was Lincoln who coined the phrase "patriotism is the last bastion of the scoundrel." (or summat like) and it can often be used as a stick which I don't like. I think we've gone too far the other way "yes we're English. Sorry. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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