Is celebrating St Georges Day racist?

[janie48]

Not overly, although some things touch me. Orwell, Bertrand Russell, The Beatles.

 

I don't understand patriotism though, I'm immune to it. It's never got through to me.

 

I should also add that I don't think patriotism is ugly be default. It's a complex set of beliefs sometimes, a philosophical mask which can easily hide something ugly or something beautiful behind it.

Three of the Beatles were Irish descent, hope that hasn't put you off them.

[Chris_Sleeps]

Is it just the English/st georges day thing or don't you get any country's national pride ?

Some countries have a different culture. Irish Nationalism is different, for example. They were oppressed and there are religious factors involved. That makes a certain sense, in a way.

 

American patriotism is often verging on the hysterical and jingoistic, and I'm glad that British people aren't that way inclined. We're a little more cynical, which I suppose may be one reason that we don't really adore our own national day that much.

 

The Germans aren't that keen on flag waving since WW2, notably. You never see them going mad for a parade anymore.

Three of the Beatles were Irish descent

So am I.

[spilldig]

Is it racist to celebrate S't Patrick's day then?

[Manlinose]

You've achieved your Englishness then? It is something you worked towards?

 

you don't have to work towards something you already are

 

i no more "achieved" englishness than i did my ginger hair - some of us are just born lucky

[Ms Macbeth]

I hope when all you English were celebrating your national day yesterday, someone gave a rousing chorus of the Flanders & Swann ditty from years ago 'A Song of Patriotic Prejudice'. The chorus goes:

 

'The English, the English, the English are best,

I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest.'

 

As long as people realise it was always performed tongue in cheek, then no-one should mind how it insults the rest of us. They wouldn't get away with it these days.

[janie48]

I hope when all you English were celebrating your national day yesterday, someone gave a rousing chorus of the Flanders & Swann ditty from years ago 'A Song of Patriotic Prejudice'. The chorus goes:

 

'The English, the English, the English are best,

I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest.'

 

As long as people realise it was always performed tongue in cheek, then no-one should mind how it insults the rest of us. They wouldn't get away with it these days.

I make sure I am only in the company of English folk when I sing that little ditty:hihi:

 

But seriously I do have a problem with patriotism when It displays a kind of aggressive threatening tribal mentality,then it does become racist and is pathetic!

[retep]

I hope when all you English were celebrating your national day yesterday, someone gave a rousing chorus of the Flanders & Swann ditty from years ago 'A Song of Patriotic Prejudice'. The chorus goes:

 

'The English, the English, the English are best,

I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest.'

 

As long as people realise it was always performed tongue in cheek, then no-one should mind how it insults the rest of us. They wouldn't get away with it these days.

 

The old ones are the best,

[janie48]

The old ones are the best,

 

That was funny! especially the song lyrics at the end.

 

We would all be better off with a bit of self-deprecating humour sometimes.

[melthebell]

for the patriots

 

 

even the anti racists can celebrate being english

[Anna Glypta]

Simple question.

Are you suggesting if i celebrate St Georges day i'm an inherent racist

 

If so it would suggest that the OP is inherently biggoted.