Does God Exist?

[Annie Bynnol]

3 hours ago, Mr Fisk said:

That is the point- under atheism and by extention who adopt philosophical naturalism- you cannot explain what being 'human' is.

After all, you are nothing but an ingrained social, biological pattern- a process.

 

So where does this 'humanity' come from- under naturalism.

As I have already said  we have no common ground of what atheism is which, like the other bits of  your philosophy you mention don't have any  place in explaining what we observe so are only relevant in justifying your religion. So the answer to your post is " I haven't a clue what you're on about, but I know why you ask".

 

For nearly 1500 years the religious but not biblical view of the Solar System involved adding more and more layers of philosophy and mathematics to explain its structure.  Each new religion supported explanation failed to explain planetary motion as observations from around Europe increased in accuracy, quantity and frequency. 

 

Unable to account for, and unwilling to add more "wheels within wheels" Copernicus took on the infighting churches and came up with mathematical ideas that fitted better and despite massive flaws would be "fixed" later by generations led by Keppler, Brahe, Newton, Einstein, Hawking, and the next ones along and the next. At each stage the religions complained, attacked and attempted to discredit the individuals and their ideas because they don't use a god or need a god to function.

 

Not only do the theories based on observation move on but they overlap and validate each other and if they don't to then we know that is the current limit of our communities' understanding and a problem to solve. Some religions when they come across something they don't understand become fearful of the consequences understanding and invoke a god, belief, faith and an impenetrable wordy philosophy.

 

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2 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

As I have already said  we have no common ground of what atheism is which, like the other bits of  your philosophy you mention don't have any  place in explaining what we observe so are only relevant in justifying your religion. So the answer to your post is " I haven't a clue what you're on about, but I know why you ask".

 

For nearly 1500 years the religious but not biblical view of the Solar System involved adding more and more layers of philosophy and mathematics to explain its structure.  Each new religion supported explanation failed to explain planetary motion as observations from around Europe increased in accuracy, quantity and frequency. 

 

Unable to account for, and unwilling to add more "wheels within wheels" Copernicus took on the infighting churches and came up with mathematical ideas that fitted better and despite massive flaws would be "fixed" later by generations led by Keppler, Brahe, Newton, Einstein, Hawking, and the next ones along and the next. At each stage the religions complained, attacked and attempted to discredit the individuals and their ideas because they don't use a god or need a god to function.

 

Not only do the theories based on observation move on but they overlap and validate each other and if they don't to then we know that is the current limit of our communities' understanding and a problem to solve. Some religions when they come across something they don't understand become fearful of the consequences understanding and invoke a god, belief, faith and an impenetrable wordy philosophy.

 

If you're going to come up with nothing but rhetoric, lets not bother.

[Annie Bynnol]

18 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

If you're going to come up with nothing but rhetoric, lets not bother.

I would never try and persuade anybody ever to turn away from things religious as I know how important it is to them.

However this works both ways and I would challenge those (individuals, groups or organizations) who would seek to persuade others through inaccuracies in fact and interpretation.  

 

 

[apelike]

Maybe this is one reason why the idea of a God was popular and thought to exist:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-52847175

 

Many text examples of Disciples and Prophets going into trances exist as well to back it up. 

Edited May 29, 2020 by apelike

[Baron99]

Does God exist?  Perhaps? 

 

But intelligent design?  Lucky for us, God gave us evolution, dinosaurs & science. 

[Padders]

1 minute ago, Baron99 said:

Does God exist?  Perhaps? 

 

But intelligent design?  Lucky for us, God gave us evolution, dinosaurs & science. 

And terrible jokes...…..

[Baron99]

6 hours ago, Padders said:

And terrible jokes...…..

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