Afghan interpreters lives on the line..

[skinz]

Do you think they should be given sanctuary in the UK after our forces have pulled out?

 

Apart from the debate..if you do agree they should be given asylum please sign here

 

Once troops move out these guys are dead..do you care?

[L00b]

They should be offerred sanctuary, yes.

 

But by the US who, IIRC, pulled the UK into that particular adventure.

 

This is a common-sense, resources-oriented reply, before anyone reads things in the above which aren't there, nor meant to be there.

[MrSmith]

It’s the duty of the Afghan government, army, police and people to make Afghanistan a safe place to live, if the Afghan government isn’t ready to take up this responsibility then we should be staying there to help them. The Taliban will be targeting the police, army, and government in an attempt to regain control and we should continue helping them in Afghanistan if they aren’t ready to help themselves. If everyone at risk from the Taliban runs away then the past 12 years was pointless.

[skinz]

It’s the duty of the Afghan government, army, police and people to make Afghanistan a safe place to live, if the Afghan government isn’t ready to take up this responsibility then we should be staying there to help them. The Taliban will be targeting the police, army, and government in an attempt to regain control and we should continue helping them in Afghanian if they aren’t ready to help themselves. If everyone at risk from the Taliban runs away then the past 12 years was pointless.

 

Unlike police, government and military..interpreters were specifically employed by the British. Do you not think that that alone makes them particular targets? Rather than general targets.

[L00b]

It’s the duty of the Afghan government, army, police and people to make Afghanistan a safe place to live, if the Afghan government isn’t ready to take up this responsibility then we should be staying there to help them. The Taliban will be targeting the police, army, and government in an attempt to regain control and we should continue helping them in Afghanistan if they aren’t ready to help themselves. If everyone at risk from the Taliban runs away then the past 12 years was pointless.

Rethoric has its uses , MrS...

 

...but it's quite redundant in a debate: any sane and rational person with even a tiny bit of memory (or interest in martial history, for younger'uns) knows full well

 

(i) that no State can provide military assistance to 'official' Afghanistan indefinitely for keeping the beardies in their caves indefinitely; and

 

(ii) what will happen when the Coalition pulls back (the exact same as what happened when the USSR, unemcumbered as it was with Human Rights, Rules of Engagement, a professional army to pay, etc. still had to leave with its tails between its legs).

 

At least they got Osama. Not a complete write-off, then

[MrSmith]

Unlike police, government and military..interpreters were specifically employed by the British. Do you not think that that alone makes them particular targets? Rather than general targets.

 

If the Taliban know who these interpreters are then they will remain targets whichever country they live in, Afghanistan is three times the size of the UK and as a population of 30,000,000 people, living a life out there with a changed identity should be possible and would make them as safe as everyone else.

 

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Rethoric has its uses , MrS...

 

...but it's quite redundant in a debate: any sane and rational person with even a tiny bit of memory (or interest in martial history, for younger'uns) knows full well

 

(i) that no State can provide military assistance to 'official' Afghanistan indefinitely for keeping the beardies in their caves indefinitely; and

 

(ii) what will happen when the Coalition pulls back (the exact same as what happened when the USSR, unemcumbered as it was with Human Rights, Rules of Engagement, a professional army to pay, etc. still had to leave with its tails between its legs).

 

At least they got Osama. Not a complete write-off, then

 

We also can't give save haven to everyone that feels threatened in their own country.

[L00b]

We also can't give save haven to everyone that feels threatened in their own country.

Obviously (and the UK is not, last I checked).

 

However, in this thread we are talking about people who are likely to be threatened (likely 'terminally' so), because of their past professional association with your country, for helping/safekeeping your troops, not because of their beliefs, tribal/ethnic background, political orientation, etc. (in which case nearest safe country is fine for the purpose).

 

You can put your head in the sand about it all you want, there is undoubtedly an element of causality at the feet of the Coalition, and a corresponding moral obligation.

 

After all, we're the "good guys"...right?

 

Alternatively, by all means feel free to revel in 'pure' capitalistic non-morality (they offerred their services, they got paid for them, we're all square and outta here, f*** them)...But at least come clean about it, instead of using non-arguments

[SevenRivers]

No, Afghanistan is their country.

[MrSmith]

Obviously (and the UK is not, last I checked).

 

However, in this thread we are talking about people who are likely to be threatened (likely 'terminally' so), because of their past professional association with your country, for helping/safekeeping your troops, not because of their beliefs, tribal/ethnic background, political orientation, etc. (in which case nearest safe country is fine for the purpose).

 

You can put your head in the sand about it all you want, there is undoubtedly an element of causality at the feet of the Coalition, and a corresponding moral obligation.

 

After all, we're the "good guys"...right?

 

Alternatively, by all means feel free to revel in 'pure' capitalistic non-morality (they offerred their services, they got paid for them, we're all square and outta here, f*** them)...But at least come clean about it, instead of using non-arguments

 

Whether they were paid or not as no bearing on it, Afghanistan is their country, it’s occupied by 30,000,000 people and the Talban are but a few, the security and safety of the Afghan people is ultimately the responsibility of the Afghan people, 30,000,000 people should be able to keep a couple of hundred people safe from a small terrorist group.

[JFKvsNixon]

Whether they were paid or not as no bearing on it, Afghanistan is their country, it’s occupied by 30,000,000 people and the Talban are but a few, the security and safety of the Afghan people is ultimately the responsibility of the Afghan people, 30,000,000 people should be able to keep a couple of hundred people safe from a small terrorist group.

 

I could be wrong, but I don't believe that it'll be a high priority for the 30,000,000 people to ensure that the people who helped out our British Forces are kept safe.