Jim Stark Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Does sound like just the one charge that wont be proceeded with. Obviously as he has pleaded guilty now there'll be no need for a full trial, just sentencing which takes place in June. Posted from Sheffieldforum.co.uk App for Android It is the most serious charge, which he did not plead guilty to, he denies the rape allegation. ---------- Post added 03-05-2013 at 08:29 ---------- Its probably this that Jim is referring to. "In light of the guilty pleas already entered, the complainant no longer wishes to give evidence on the allegation of rape, and we have concluded that it would not be in the public interest to take steps to make her give evidence in court. As such, we will not be proceeding with this charge.” I have not read that but now after reading it I find it disturbing someone can make such an allegation then withdraw from giving evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Sarah Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Its probably this that Jim is referring to. "In light of the guilty pleas already entered, the complainant no longer wishes to give evidence on the allegation of rape, and we have concluded that it would not be in the public interest to take steps to make her give evidence in court. As such, we will not be proceeding with this charge.” As a victim (a long time ago maybe but still) of this hideous type of crime i cant begin to understand why the alleged victim has taken this course of action. Perhaps she has reached an out of court settlement with Mr Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 As a victim (a long time ago maybe but still) of this hideous type of crime i cant begin to understand why the alleged victim has taken this course of action. Perhaps she has reached an out of court settlement with Mr Hall. Maybe it is to avoid the trauma of giving evidence if Mr. Hall has pleaded not guilty. We do not know if it was violent or statutary rape. He will be punished for his behaviour from his guilty pleas. Probably a balancing act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 As a victim (a long time ago maybe but still) of this hideous type of crime i cant begin to understand why the alleged victim has taken this course of action. Perhaps she has reached an out of court settlement with Mr Hall. More probably because Hall denies the charge so she would have had to give evidence at trial where you can imagine she would be severely tested by his defence given the length of time that has elapsed in between and lack of forensic evidence to support her claims. Hall will be punished for the (serious) offences he's admitted and obviously the alleged rape victim is prepared to forego her action because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quisquose Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 As a victim (a long time ago maybe but still) of this hideous type of crime i cant begin to understand why the alleged victim has taken this course of action. Perhaps she has reached an out of court settlement with Mr Hall. As a man, who has never been a victim of any sort of assault whatsoever, I can understand why the alleged victim might have taken, or been advised to take, this course of action. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 As a man, who has never been a victim of any sort of assault whatsoever, I can understand why the alleged victim might have taken, or been advised to take, this course of action. Funny that. I totally understand too. She probably feels that justice has been served and in such light does not want the ordeal and media circus of a trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 15 months in prison. Just announced on the news. His defence barrister said he was a confused old man who deserved mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Sarah Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 As a man, who has never been a victim of any sort of assault whatsoever, I can understand why the alleged victim might have taken, or been advised to take, this course of action. Funny that. A i dont find it funny and B, you dont know what your talking about. Until youve been there and suffered it you cant make an informed opinion. Simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Hall jailed for 15 months. Hall's barrister in mitigation claimed that Hall is a frightened and bewildered 83-year-old man answering for the touching - no more, no less - of all of 13... victims over a quarter of a century ago. Is 15 months a fair sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Sarah Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Hall jailed for 15 months. Hall's barrister in mitigation claimed that Hall is a frightened and bewildered 83-year-old man answering for the touching - no more, no less - of all of 13... victims over a quarter of a century ago. Is 15 months a fair sentence? Yes and no. Yes in the respect that there was no physical proof, just words and then an admission which is fair enough. Hes admitted hes guilty. No (for Hall) in the respect that this happened. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/artist-ovenden-gets-suspended-sentence-child-sex-crimes-175108449.html#bEXWhqc Personally, both should have gone down. Hall got about the right sentence, Ovenden should have got at least the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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