andygardener Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 No idea why you think working with sex offender qualifies you to determine someone’s sexuality. "sexuality" requires a consensual partner(s). What folks get up to with a consensual partner/partners might be way off the scale for the average bod in the street but it's nobodies business but theirs. It is not possible for a child abuser to have a consensual partner so to class it as a valid "sexuality" is utterly messed up and you should be ashamed of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 It is not a sexuality/sexual preference in the way that you are describing it. If it were, how come so many are able to have functional relationships with adults? So I ask again, what is your expertise? Some gay people have functioning relationships with people of the opposite sex, many people including gay, straight and paedophiles don’t have sexual relationships with anyone. Some people have sexual relationships with both sexes. There are 22 Possible Sexual Orientations some of which are legal and some are illegal, some that are legal now were once illegal. You could look at it as one sexual orientation and 21 deviation from normal if you want. ---------- Post added 05-05-2013 at 22:51 ---------- "sexuality" requires a consensual partner(s). What folks get up to with a consensual partner/partners might be way off the scale for the average bod in the street but it's nobodies business but theirs. It is not possible for a child abuser to have a consensual partner so to class it as a valid "sexuality" is utterly messed up and you should be ashamed of yourself. Definition sexuality A person's sexual orientation or preference, preference doesn't require consent. It is possible for them to prefer and be sexually attracted to children without being a child abuser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Some gay people have functioning relationships with people of the opposite sex, many people including gay, straight and paedophiles don’t have sexual relationships with anyone. Some people have sexual relationships with both sexes. There are 22 Possible Sexual Orientations some of which are legal and some are illegal, some that are legal now were once illegal. You could look at it as one sexual orientation and 21 deviation from normal if you want. ---------- Post added 05-05-2013 at 22:51 ---------- Definition sexuality A person's sexual orientation or preference, preference doesn't require consent. It is possible for them to prefer and be sexually attracted to children without being a child abuser. How can you be sexually attracted to children without not thinking in a sexual/abuse context. If you're thinking about sexually abusing a child you are sexually abusing a child. Although it's a thought process and not physical, never the less it's abuse...in the Freudian sense. As usual though you've hypothesized with a skewered thought process in order to make light of it. Most abusers if not all before physically abusing, use their mentality as a pre cursor to physical. " many people including gay, straight and paedophiles don’t have sexual relationships with anyone". Most people tend to socialize or are acquainted with Gays or Straight, and would make a fair assumption on those relationships..because paedophilia isn't the social norm i'm guessing you're guessing again, or you think the mind of a paedophile works the same way as your two other examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Definition sexuality A person's sexual orientation or preference, preference doesn't require consent. It is possible for them to prefer and be sexually attracted to children without being a child abuser. You can be whatever you want sexually - if your floats your boat does not involve consent then you need your balls chopping off. End of effing chat. You are increasingly coming across as a nonce which is not a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 You can be whatever you want sexually - if your floats your boat does not involve consent then you need your balls chopping off. End of effing chat. You are increasingly coming across as a nonce which is not a good thing I have a tincy wincy feeling you're about to experience a verbal gymnastic equivalent of the Yurchenko With Preflight Twist as a reply ---------- Post added 06-05-2013 at 01:32 ---------- What is your expertise in this area then? No idea why you think working with sex offender qualifies you to determine someone’s sexuality. "Non, haven't a clue". Would have been much simpler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Some gay people have functioning relationships with people of the opposite sex, many people including gay, straight and paedophiles don’t have sexual relationships with anyone. Some people have sexual relationships with both sexes. There are 22 Possible Sexual Orientations some of which are legal and some are illegal, some that are legal now were once illegal. You could look at it as one sexual orientation and 21 deviation from normal if you want. ---------- Post added 05-05-2013 at 22:51 ---------- Definition sexuality A person's sexual orientation or preference, preference doesn't require consent. It is possible for them to prefer and be sexually attracted to children without being a child abuser. This post is wrong on so many levels.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 How can you be sexually attracted to children without not thinking in a sexual/abuse context. It works the same as any other sexual attraction, when I’m sexually attracted to a women it doesn’t mean I intend to abuse or rape her if she isn’t attracted to me, when a gay person is attracted to someone, it doesn’t mean they intend to rape or abuse them if they don’t reciprocate. Most people at some time in their life will be sexually attracted to someone that doesn’t reciprocate which isn’t a problem for the most part. We are the lucky ones because at least if the person we are sexually attracted to reciprocates we can enjoy a sexual relationship, now imagine what it must have been like to be sexually attracted to someone of the same sex at a time when it was illegal, now think how much more horrendous it must be to be sexually attracted to children. An heterosexual person can’t just change at will to an homosexual person or vice versa, and a paedophile can’t just decide one day to be attracted to people of their own age, there is no cure, it isn’t a disease, its a sexual orientation and nothing can change that, these people have to live their life without sexual partners and many do, many avoid places where there are children, if they become known they are ostracised by society, it must be a very lonely life. Obviously the ones that succumb to their desires need locking away, or hanging by their balls if that rocks your boat. ---------- Post added 06-05-2013 at 08:17 ---------- You can be whatever you want sexually - if your floats your boat does not involve consent then you need your balls chopping off. End of effing chat. You are increasingly coming across as a nonce which is not a good thing No you can't, you are what you are, gay people are gay because they are gay not because they want to be gay. One doesn't choose ones sexual orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 People should at least wait until his is charged before preparing the gallows. wednesday1 how many links to Labour MP's falling foul of the law have you posted to date? ---------- Post added 05-05-2013 at 21:19 ---------- Something Labour want to ban http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10322162 What comes around goes around, Hang him high along with VAT man and The Boy Blunder ---------- Post added 06-05-2013 at 08:29 ---------- No you can't, you are what you are, gay people are gay because they are gay not because they want to be gay. One doesn't choose ones sexual orientation. So if they are gay but don't want to be gay, why are they gay then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 "sexuality" requires a consensual partner(s). What folks get up to with a consensual partner/partners might be way off the scale for the average bod in the street but it's nobodies business but theirs. It is not possible for a child abuser to have a consensual partner so to class it as a valid "sexuality" is utterly messed up and you should be ashamed of yourself. Exactly this. ---------- Post added 06-05-2013 at 08:38 ---------- This post is wrong on so many levels.... This sounds like the type of dangerous nonsense Tom O'Carroll and his mates of the former Paedophile Information Exchange spout to justify child sexual abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 So if they are gay but don't want to be gay, why are they gay then? Not wanting to be gay won't alter the fact that they are sexually attracted to people of the same sex, they can choose not to have sex with someone of the same sex, they can choose to have sex with someone of the opposite sex and many do, but they can't choose whom they find sexually attractive. A married man with kids can be gay and some hide their true feeling throughout their lives. ---------- Post added 06-05-2013 at 08:46 ---------- Exactly this. ---------- Post added 06-05-2013 at 08:38 ---------- This sounds like the type of dangerous nonsense Tom O'Carroll and his mates of the former Paedophile Information Exchange spout to justify child sexual abuse. For someone that claims to work with sex offenders and victims you appear to know very little about the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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