Barrister says age of consent should be 13

[mikem8634]

It's really shallow of people to conflate anti-patriarchy with misandry. Rather silly if not stupid really. Shows a lack of understand given that many many men are also anti-patriarchy and feminist. Being pro-women does not equal being anti-men. We know that, shame a lot of others haven't grasped this fact.

 

Well said.

 

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Anyone who is triggered by this and other threads, you can contact:

 

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Worth repeating every couple of pages or so.

[mikem8634]

Everybody is something for a reason. Its obvious SG has a hatred for the male populous, and to hold a belief dear, is to have had or read about a bad experience. A woman can cry rape for whatever reason she wants, whether it be that she has been genuinely attacked, or the cheque has bounced. Its never black or white.

 

For the sake of clarification and regarding the bit in bold, are you suggesting that there is a major problem with people making false allegations of rape for reasons of financial gain?

[Suffragette1]

Well said.

 

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Worth repeating every couple af pages or so.

 

Thanks Mike and given that many survivors have told me how triggered they are by the type of comments on this thread, I am changing my signature to that effect.

[mikem8634]

Thanks Mike and given that many survivors have told me how triggered they are by the type of comments on this thread, I am changing my signature to that effect.

 

Good idea.

 

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Good idea.

 

Hope that's okay.

[Suffragette1]

Good idea.

 

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Hope that's okay.

 

:thumbsup:

 

More than OK.

[skinz]

Those advocating sexual access through a change in law to 13yr olds Please ring 999 and ask for Sapphire.

[MrSmith]

Here s a sensible article about about why the Age of Consent Should be Lowered to 14.

 

Sixteen is a totally arbitrary age of consent. It originates from 1885, when consent was raised from 13. There is, however, no medical or psychological evidence that 16 (as opposed to 14 or any other age) is the age of sexual or emotional maturity.

 

The legal effect of consent at 16 is to criminalise youngsters below that age who have consensual sex. The law says that no person under 16 is capable of giving their consent to a sexual act. Any such consensual relationship is automatically deemed an indecent assault. Two 14 year olds who have a mutually agreed relationship risk maximum penalties ranging from 10 years to life imprisonment (depending on their sex and the nature of their sexual acts).

 

Romeo and Juliet is one of the greatest love stories of all time. But if these young lovers, aged 14 and 13, were living in Britain today, their fate would be equally star-crossed. The law brands as criminal anyone who is sexually active at those ages. In a modern-day equivalent scenario, the parents of a 13 year old girl would not have to plot and scheme like the Capulets. They could get rid of their daughter’s boyfriend by reporting him to the police and having him arrested. Some parents do exactly that!

 

Although the number of young people under 16 arrested for consenting sex is small, that is no consolation to those who are arrested. One unjust arrest is one too many.

 

There are, however, many more instances of young men just above the age of consent getting arrested for consensual sex with girls just under the age of consent — about 300 a year in the UK. Most are ratted on by disapproving parents or jealous ex-partners.

 

The key to protecting teenagers is education and empowerment. A reduction in the age of consent to 14 must therefore go in tandem with extending sex education to tackle abuse issues. Young people need to be given the skills and confidence to resist and report unwanted sexual advances. Schools should be required to teach pupils how to deal with sex pests, and to offer sexual assertiveness training so they feel confident to say ’no’ to people who try to pressure them into having sex.

 

Canada, Germany, Italy and seven other European countries already have an equal age of consent of 14, which applies either in all or some circumstances. This policy is supported by a broad consensus among political parties, child welfare groups and education authorities. Why? Because it works. Compared to Britain, most of these countries have fewer teenage pregnancies, abortions and HIV infections. In the Netherlands, the teen pregnancy rate is seven times less than in the UK, and the average age of first sexual intercourse is slightly higher. This debunks the claim that a reduction to 14 will encourage earlier sexual experimentation and promiscuity.

[Suffragette1]

Load of tosh, faux concern and written by Tatchell who has also in the past said not all adult sex with children is abusive or unwanted.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1311193/PETER-HITCHENS-Question-Who-said-Not-sex-involving-children-unwanted-abusive-Answer-The-Popes-biggest-British-critic.html

 

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Am with Stavvers here. http://stavvers.wordpress.com/2012/09/29/the-age-of-consent-a-woefully-inadequate-concept-and-why-peter-tatchell-is-wrong/

[MrSmith]

Am with Stavvers here. http://stavvers.wordpress.com/2012/09/29/the-age-of-consent-a-woefully-inadequate-concept-and-why-peter-tatchell-is-wrong/

 

Load of tosh written by stavvers, another angry women, part anarchist, part feminist, all angry and proud member of the Online Wimmin Mob.

[LeMaquis]

Sixteen is a totally arbitrary age of consent.

 

Romeo and Juliet is one of the greatest love stories of all time.

 

Canada, Germany, Italy and seven other European countries ..... Compared to Britain, most of these countries have fewer teenage pregnancies, abortions and HIV infections.

 

All age-based laws (sexual activity, voting, drinking alcohol, smoking, etc) are arbitrary. There is no evidence other than your warped imagination that children would be as ready emotionally for sex at 14 than they are at 16. As your calls to lower the age of consent are nothing more than arbitrary you're just being hypocritical in calling the present law arbitrary. Any law would be arbitrary.

 

Quoting Shakespeare is getting a bit desperate. You might as well quote Merchant of Venice in a debate about payday loans.

 

What evidence do you have that the age of consent dictates the rate of teenage pregnancies, abortions and HIV? You admit that only most of these countries have lower rates. There must therefore be other factors such as education and general social attitudes to sex.

 

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Load of tosh written by stavvers, another angry women, part anarchist, part feminist, all angry and proud member of the Online Wimmin Mob.

 

As opposed to a load of tosh from the Online Right Wing Complacency Towards Paedophiles Mob.