Hillpig Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I suggest you read 1984 by George Orwell , descrbing a future police state for the UK Some aspects people like you are already calling for ,... As for Your comment about allowing service personal to carry guns Here is a list of other nations that do the same Iraq China North Korea Were do we fit in ? ---------- Post added 24-05-2013 at 19:07 ---------- I have read Mr Orwell, obviously my interpretation is unlike yours, I feel the 1984 he predict is quite close to Saudi Arabia without the money. The majority of countries service personnel carry firearms as a matter of course. Add to your list the Scandinavian countries France Germany and Italy. Saudi is the number one hot spot for salafi extremists idiology . Do u find it normal or strange we are best allies with Saudi ? As for rounding up, shall we make them wear special badges as well ? No need we should deport them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Chaos Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqueakyPete Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 No It should be alright now,they have got the BEST training instructors around.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samgale Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 No need we should deport them. Deport who ? All the Muslims ? Or just starting with them ? Would we start by rounding them up ? How about we paint a cresent on all Muslim properties and business ? Maybe a big book burning session also ? I'm sure you cud get a job escorting these Muslims through the gates ( camps ) What do u think ? That is what u r suggesting aren't you ? ---------- Post added 24-05-2013 at 21:19 ---------- Would you like to sit down next to an armed squaddie if he had just returned from Afganistan? I think its a good thing they take the guns away In the USA returning personal are more likly to commit suicide than be killed while on active duty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastbank Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I suggest you read 1984 by George Orwell , descrbing a future police state for the UK Some aspects people like you are already calling for ,... As for Your comment about allowing service personal to carry guns Here is a list of other nations that do the same Iraq China North Korea Were do we fit in ? ---------- Post added 24-05-2013 at 19:07 ---------- Saudi is the number one hot spot for salafi extremists idiology . Do u find it normal or strange we are best allies with Saudi ? As for rounding up, shall we make them wear special badges as well ? no need must of got hours of video evidence against them....ship them out..let the saudies sort it for us...bung them a few quid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Given the awful terrorist atrocity recently in London, and the fact that our security forces are fighting a 24/7 Global war on terror as we speak, should we have a visible presence of Police and Soldiers on our streets full time? Terrorist atrocity? Not exactly a global war on terror more along the lines of global war of terror. Last time I checked it was a murder committed by two black men who seemed mentally disturbed? Not the first time such murders have taken place in fact much worse such as mentally disturbed white men in the north of England going on the rampage, mentally disturbed white men shooting up schools in America on a regular basis. EDL inspired mentally disturbed white men going on bombing and shooting sprees in Europe. How come this is referred to as a terror attack and those simply referred to as attacks or shootings? Would it have something to do with the attackers claiming to be Muslim? Atrocities like the Woolwich killing, and the nationwide riots of 2011 (in which we were reminded that it was morons of all colours and backgrounds that were implicated), might well have been lessened? Wrong the riots were predominantly black youths especially in the areas where the worst of the rioting took place and was stoked by the shooting of an unarmed black man and it wouldn't be the first time unarmed black and brown people have been shot to death on the streets of London without warning. Westminster in London does have those red Volvos full of mobile armed cops driving around, ought they be nationwide? great idea if you want more criminals to start arming themselves like in America and more unarmed civilians of brown and black appearance get shot in the streets. ---------- Post added 24-05-2013 at 23:29 ---------- I fear that what happened in Woolwich is the real beginning of the end of our integrated society. It seems to me that Islam cannot exist in a society where it is not the dominant force. I predict that there will be further outrages soon, I further predict that there will be a reaction from the majority. Enoch Powell may well have got his dates a bit awry but the substance of what he said is coming true. May I suggest that before replying in the normal vituperative and insulting manner you wait until the end of the summer then you can tell me if I am wrong. A reaction from the majority? Who are they going to go after the two guys that did it? Anyone with a brown or black face? Anyone who looks a bit Muslim? Muslims peacefully praying in a Mosque not harming anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Terrorist atrocity? Not exactly a global war on terror more along the lines of global war of terror. Last time I checked it was a murder committed by two black men who seemed mentally disturbed? Not the first time such murders have taken place in fact much worse such as mentally disturbed white men in the north of England going on the rampage, mentally disturbed white men shooting up schools in America on a regular basis. EDL inspired mentally disturbed white men going on bombing and shooting sprees in Europe. How come this is referred to as a terror attack and those simply referred to as attacks or shootings? Would it have something to do with the attackers claiming to be Muslim? This is spot on. These idiots from apparently Christian homes were raised and educated in this country, one has to ask how they found themselves being 'radicalised', nobody forced them to take on extreme ideology, their families weren't going to be murdered if they refused to do so. I think (murderous) extremism in all its forms attracts people with sociopathic personalities in the first place. These two were an accident waiting to happen, just as were the 7/7 bombers, David Copeland, the Lawrence killers, football thugs and many more who 'choose' to murder/attack people indiscriminately, and try to hang it on some misplaced ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Given the awful terrorist atrocity recently in London the police who attended were armed and shot the psychopaths, why would arming all police help? were any wandering past at the time? do you normally see any "on the beat"? i thought the main gripe with policing these days is not enough police on the streets full stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Totally against it..but if pushed I could be persuaded Ooops!..I may have just stirred the wrath of suffy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Totally against it..but if pushed I could be persuaded but where have they got their guns hidden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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