Banning Lads Magazines

[Suffragette1]

But it does restrict their choice - that's the point. It is a reduction of freedom and the top of a slippery slope. Banning page 3 can hardly be said to be done from a viewpoint of the models safety, it's simple soft porn and a long way down the slippery slope indeed.

 

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Then what is it about? At the moment what it *appears* to be about is getting back at men because you don't like men for some reason. I'm certain that's probably not what it's about but that is how it appears.

 

It doesn't restrict their choice when there are plenty of other choices, for example Lads' mags. I'm not sure what you mean about page 3 being banned from the point of the model's safety, I have never said this nor advocated that as a reason.

 

I am not getting back at men nor am I a prude. Far from it. More liberated than many in fact but it's all about context, a point that I have made several times.

 

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There are no good arguments for banning 'lads mags'. Principally because no-one is forced to posed for them, in fact they're well paid for it and the publication isn't breaking the law.

 

Any other area you could possibly bring to the table would, in the interests of equality would have to include ALL mags, both 'lads' and womens.

 

 

 

 

The Sun's readership is around 7.2 MILLION. Do you really think that they're going to listen to less than 1.5%? (I'm being kind and assuming that all of the 103,000 signatories actually read the Sun newspaper to reach that percentage figure. In my opinion I highly doubt even 1% of those actually do)

 

Oh and I also see that neither you or Jessica have past comment on the video clip I posted? I'll assume that you cannot counter it.

 

I can't be bothered to look at the clip, I'm sure it's very silly whatever it is.

[Obelix]

It doesn't restrict their choice .

 

 

Yes it does. As soon as you stop them from doing something that is a restriction. You don't get to handwave away a major newspaper as an irrelevance just because it's convenient to your argument.

 

I can't be bothered to look at the clip, I'm sure it's very silly whatever it is.

 

Actually no, it's far from the point, and makes a very serious argument. much like the two photos further up the page that have been quietly ignored. It comes back to the basic point that women seem to want equality only when it's convenient for them, which is no equality at all.

[Resident]

I can't be bothered to look at the clip, I'm sure it's very silly whatever it is.

 

In other words, it doesn't suit your argument because you can't defend against it.

 

Also you've completely ignored the point(s) preceding it. Why is that?

Could it be that I've torpedoed your point regarding the petition against page 3

 

You stated earlier that we're too thick to understand yet you seemingly cannot provide a counter argument for everything this thicko has said.

 

Seems a bit hypocritical since you accused me of ignoring Jessica's post earlier doesn't it?

[Suffragette1]

In other words, it doesn't suit your argument because you can't defend against it.

 

Also you've completely ignored the point(s) preceding it. Why is that?

Could it be that I've torpedoed your point regarding the petition against page 3

 

You stated earlier that we're too thick to understand yet you seemingly cannot provide a counter argument for everything this thicko has said.

 

Seems a bit hypocritical since you accused me of ignoring Jessica's post earlier doesn't it?

 

What points have I ignored?

[Chris_Sleeps]

Well lets look at the way men are portrayed in womens magazines then. Topless and for their amusement.

Any specific examples?

 

Now switch the genders, it wouldn't make it to air. Why? Because of sexism/equality laws.

I'll agree with you in part. Men looking at naked women isn't viewed as innocently by society. It's rare to see men going into lapdancing clubs in adverts. There's a differrnt morality to it.

 

However, an advert for chocolate is hardly a cultural landmark. As an aside, it's also an awful advert.

[Suffragette1]

I think it highly appropriate that in a post-Leveson world that page 3 is consigned to history. We're not living in Gene Hunt territory. Why should women be hypersexualised in the mainstream media?

 

I am also unclear about the Lose Lads' Mags campaign whether its aim is to ban them entirely or prevent them being stocked in the main retailers, which seems to be the thrust of the campaign.

 

http://www.newstatesman.com/media/2013/05/lose-lads-mags-campaign-demonstrates-power-modern-feminism

[Jessica23]

Oh and I also see that neither you or Jessica have past comment on the video clip I posted? I'll assume that you cannot counter it.

 

What am I supposed to be countering? Does the video conclusively prove that male objectification of women and female objectification of men are the same thing? If not, why on earth do I have to respond to it?

 

If it's another tedious advert that shows women leering over men that you're hoping somehow magically disperses male hegemony then I'll refer you to the several posts I've written over the years about the Diet Coke advert when someone produced it on here to make ridiculous non-points...

[MrSmith]

I think it highly appropriate that in a post-Leveson world that page 3 is consigned to history. We're not living in Gene Hunt territory. Why should women be hypersexualised in the mainstream media?

 

I am also unclear about the Lose Lads' Mags campaign whether its aim is to ban them entirely or prevent them being stocked in the main retailers, which seems to be the thrust of the campaign.

 

http://www.newstatesman.com/media/2013/05/lose-lads-mags-campaign-demonstrates-power-modern-feminism

 

These are some of the internet definitions for Hypersexualise.

Hypersexuality is extremely frequent or suddenly increased sexual urges or sexual activity.

Exhibiting unusual or excessive concern with or indulgence in sexual activity.

Excessively interested or involved in sexual activity.

 

 

How does page three make women hypersexualised.

[Hots on]

I think it highly appropriate that in a post-Leveson world that page 3 is consigned to history. We're not living in Gene Hunt territory. Why should women be hypersexualised in the mainstream media?

 

I am also unclear about the Lose Lads' Mags campaign whether its aim is to ban them entirely or prevent them being stocked in the main retailers, which seems to be the thrust of the campaign.

 

http://www.newstatesman.com/media/2013/05/lose-lads-mags-campaign-demonstrates-power-modern-feminism

 

Opposition to the lose-lads-mags-campaign and people like you will mainly be women.

[Halibut]

Opposition to the lose-lads-mags-campaign and people like you will mainly be women.

 

You'd be surprised how many men share the same concerns.