geared Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 There is 'some' evidence that long term heavy use of strong cannabis can have an effect on your mental state. However that is a pretty poor argument IMO, because long term heavy use of strong alcohol will turn your liver to mush, will ruin the rest of your body and will kill your pretty effectively after a number of years - yet thats totally legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Religion can turn your mind to mush, but it's totally legal! Why anyone should worry about cannabis when that's going on is a wonder to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 The people of Colorado have supported the signing into law of new legislation design to govern the production, sale and consumption of herbal cannabis. More here - http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021074912_apuslegalizingmarijuanaglance.html It's still against federal law, we shall see how it goes... nice to see our cousins sailing in the right direction here and there. There still needs to be legislation governing the level of what is safe when operating a motor vehicle. Someone on a high is just as dangerous as someone who is way over the alcohol limit. I'm surprised that this matter hasn't even been up for examination yet. Anyone from Colorado who has cannabis in their vehicle had better be careful which other State they happen to be driving in. Legal in Colorado dont mean anything in Kansas or Nebraska. They'll end up in the pokey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 There still needs to be legislation governing the level of what is safe when operating a motor vehicle. Someone on a high is just as dangerous as someone who is way over the alcohol limit. I'm surprised that this matter hasn't even been up for examination yet. Anyone from Colorado who has cannabis in their vehicle had better be careful which other State they happen to be driving in. Legal in Colorado dont mean anything in Kansas or Nebraska. They'll end up in the pokey It was in the link - ''After years of debate, Colorado now has as blood-level limit for marijuana and drivers. The law says that juries can presume drivers are too stoned to drive if their blood contains more than 5 nanograms per milliliter of THC, marijuana's psychoactive ingredient. Washington state adopted the same driving standard on the ballot last year, but Colorado left the question to the state Legislature.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagel Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 What does 5 nanograms per milliliter of THC equate to in terms of your average spliff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 What does 5 nanograms per milliliter of THC equate to in terms of your average spliff? Phanerothyme can probably answer that much better than I, but I think that's a very low figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagel Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 The thing is, it stays in your blood for up to three months. There's people have lost their jobs in my line of business (offshore oil) through being drug tested at their helicopter check-in and failing when cannabis was detected, even though they hadn't smoked any for a while. This is the UK of course, most other European countries have a more tolerant attitude. There's even lockers at the check-in at Holland where you can leave your stash so you can have a smoke on arrival back onshore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 Apparently ... there is no easy way to monitor (in urine or blood) THC/metabolite levels and relate them to behavioral and/or physiological effects, as can be done with alcohol, Given that THC has a half life of 19 hours, a five billionth of a gram per millilitre limit is essentially a binary discriminator that tells you whether someone has ingested THC recently. It will be colossally inaccurate, and you could probably be busted for DUI weeks later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 This is one of the issues with cannabis testing, my brother in his student days was checked a week after having some at a student party and because it came up with cannabinoids or whatever in his blood he was done for DUI of drugs. even though his driving was normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 A good roadside competency test would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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