WeX Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Is it just me, or has there been a lot more TV adverts lately encouraging online gambling, scratchcards etc? Seems odd in the current economic climate, especially alongside all the 'Wonga' type adverts. Also heard the government is thinking of giving permission for betting shops to be set up inside pubs. If you watch much day time TV, you will see the same old pay-day loan companies, online gabling, PPI or accident claims adverts and finally the debt management companies. ---------- Post added 31-05-2013 at 10:29 ---------- everytime you open your mouth? A sweeping generalisation there I see ... oh the irony. ---------- Post added 31-05-2013 at 10:32 ---------- Fags and booze are the biggest waste of benefit money in this country I'd wager. and yes I do agree that people should be prevented from buying these things with benefit money, especially child benefit money. However in the real world that just won't work. A system where your benefits go into an account that does not allow the recipient to spend the money on say alcohol or for scratch cards etc would work. I think thats what the US have in some states already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Is it just me, or has there been a lot more TV adverts lately encouraging online gambling <...>Much of the US is very highly regulated in this respect, with individual states banning online casinos outright in addition to relevant federal statutes. For once, we could do worse than take a leaf of that US book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillpig Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Would it not make more sense if people on benefits received them in kind rather than cash. Stamps that could only be used for food would be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 People would be up in arms about segregation and stigmatism of the poor and all that. Most people can manage their benefits properly, but it's always the small minority that give everyone else a bad name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeX Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 People would be up in arms about segregation and stigmatism of the poor and all that. Most people can manage their benefits properly, but it's always the small minority that give everyone else a bad name. It doesn't need to be segregated. It would work in the same way any debit card does. There would be no obvious difference to someone else paying for goods on their debit card. I suspect that the majority of people on benefits such as JSA, spend some of their money on alcohol. The question is, is alcohol something they need? I don't know where the line should be drawn, but I would agree with any measures to prevent those on JSA from spending their money on gambling and strip clubs, like in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrr Sez I Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 It doesn't need to be segregated. It would work in the same way any debit card does. There would be no obvious difference to someone else paying for goods on their debit card. I suspect that the majority of people on benefits such as JSA, spend some of their money on alcohol. The question is, is alcohol something they need? I don't know where the line should be drawn, but I would agree with any measures to prevent those on JSA from spending their money on gambling and strip clubs, like in Florida. You simply can't dictate what people do with their benefit money. At the end of the day, everyone needs some luxuries no matter how insignificant or there would be anarchy and revolt in the streets. £5 on the lottery here, a bottle of cider there, £10 on the horses, money for cigs. Let them spend their tiny amount of benefit money on whatever it is that keeps them subdued to drudgery. I don't know about you but I don't want the unemployed breaking down the door of my townhouse. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeX Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 You simply can't dictate what people do with their benefit money. At the end of the day, everyone needs some luxuries no matter how insignificant or there would be anarchy and revolt in the streets. £5 on the lottery here, a bottle of cider there, £10 on the horses, money for cigs. Let them spend their tiny amount of benefit money on whatever it is that keeps them subdued to drudgery. I don't know about you but I don't want the unemployed breaking down the door of my townhouse. Think about it. Why cant you dictate what the money is spent on? They do it in other countries, why not here? No one has the right to luxuries and gambling. I wouldn't go as far as stipulating what food they can buy, or what brand of toilet paper, but there is no need to gamble and there is no need for alcohol. Why should tax payers give money to people for things they do not need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrr Sez I Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Why cant you dictate what the money is spent on? No one has the right to luxuries and gambling. Why should tax payers give money to people for things they do not need? It's obvious. If you take away the little luxuries that numbs the senses of the have nots they will come to our doors with pitchforks. I'm fine with them doing what they like with their own money, I'm fine with them wasting it on whatever. It's money well spent. It's just a necessary cost of "doing business". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeX Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 It's obvious. If you take away the little luxuries that numbs the senses of the have nots they will come to our doors with pitchforks. I'm fine with them doing what they like with their own money, I'm fine with them wasting it on whatever. It's money well spent. It's just a necessary cost of "doing business". Or they could be motivated to work for their luxuries and gambling. I suppose you see benefits as a trap, while I see them as a safety net, there to help people back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Or they could be motivated to work for their luxuries and gambling. I suppose you see benefits as a trap, while I see them as a safety net, there to help people back to work. It may sound ok in principle, but there are many different types of benefit. Should we just allow child benefit to be spent on children? Anyone that has just lost their job, and is looking for work, should be helped, and shouldnt have any restrictions on where they spend their/our money. And then there are those that cannot work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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