Mister M Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'm embarrassed for you, I really am. ---------- Post added 31-05-2013 at 14:47 ---------- Who would think that benefits being spent in casino's/betting shops is a good thing?? I personally don't like gambling. I don't think the state should be in the business of telling people when and where they can spend their money. I'm surprised that Conservatives haven't branded this the 'nanny state'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeX Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 I personally don't like gambling. I don't think the state should be in the business of telling people when and where they can spend their money. I'm surprised that Conservatives haven't branded this the 'nanny state'. "Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) is at least £56.80 a week to help you while you look for work". If you want to spend your money, don't you first need to earn it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 "Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) is at least £56.80 a week to help you while you look for work". If you want to spend your money, don't you first need to earn it? No. But many have 'earned' their benefits, many unemployed now have spent time in work where they paid into the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Nothing like stereotyping people is there? Because of course you would never ever do that would you Mecky.... ---------- Post added 31-05-2013 at 17:42 ---------- The evidence is here for all to see and you know it. I never disappear and I always back up my replies it's just that people like you don't like my replies and so refuse to accept them. Can you please answer the questions about school playing fields, GDP, unemployment and how you would pay for everything you want then please. Your list of avoided questions is ever growing! ---------- Post added 31-05-2013 at 17:43 ---------- "Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) is at least £56.80 a week to help you while you look for work". If you want to spend your money, don't you first need to earn it? It's because it's given to help you look for work that I think it's reasonable to control where it can be spent. How you do that without opening up the perils of a card or voucher system though is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syne Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 It doesn't need to be segregated. It would work in the same way any debit card does. There would be no obvious difference to someone else paying for goods on their debit card. I suspect that the majority of people on benefits such as JSA, spend some of their money on alcohol. The question is, is alcohol something they need? I don't know where the line should be drawn, but I would agree with any measures to prevent those on JSA from spending their money on gambling and strip clubs, like in Florida. You don't need anything more than rice and water. what's the difference between your payment (from job?) and a benefit payment? None, absolutley none of your business what others payments go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hots on Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I personally don't like gambling. I don't think the state should be in the business of telling people when and where they can spend their money. I'm surprised that Conservatives haven't branded this the 'nanny state'. Conservatives, just like most people don't mind what people spend THEIR OWN money on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Conservatives, just like most people don't mind what people spend THEIR OWN money on. As I said before millions of people who are out of work, were once in work. They've paid into the system. This country is going throgh the worst financial crisis since the great depression of the 1930s. A financial crisis caused by the banks, who incidentally have had more largesse than any body on benefits. Why don't you pick on the financial institutions, or the tax evaders, or the lobbyist that call for more deregulation? Let me guess, you're a 2 up 2 down Tory who likes to rail against those with nothing No doubt there were people sneering at the Jarrow Marchers in the 1930s saying that they should be using that time to look for work rather than demonstrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeX Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 You don't need anything more than rice and water. what's the difference between your payment (from job?) and a benefit payment? None, absolutley none of your business what others payments go on. What's the difference, well I have earned my pay cheque. Can the same be said for someone on JSA? Have they earned that money? No, they have not. They are given that money to help them get back to work. Gambling etc does not aid them in returning to the workforce, therefore I feel they should not be allowed to use their benefits to do this. You do need more than rice and water to have any form of quality of life. No one is saying those on benefits should suffer, but that does not mean they can expect luxuries. if you want those, go out and earn them. ---------- Post added 31-05-2013 at 23:29 ---------- It's because it's given to help you look for work that I think it's reasonable to control where it can be spent. How you do that without opening up the perils of a card or voucher system though is the problem. We already have an almost cashless society. All we need is a bank, or banks to run basic bank accounts with debit cards that have no cash point functionality. Like most credit cards. Then this card can be refused at establishments like ladbrooks etc. This wouldn't stop some people from trying to get round the system by buying goods and selling them, then using the cash to gamble, but any obstacle will stop some and thats where you start. ---------- Post added 31-05-2013 at 23:36 ---------- No. But many have 'earned' their benefits, many unemployed now have spent time in work where they paid into the system. Very true, but looking at it in that way is wrong in my opinion. When was the last time you told an insurance company what you wanted from them when making a claim and got it? Its an insurance, not a personal bank account you can do with what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 EBT card fraud is in Florida. Do any of those arrested look hungry or like they missed a meal lately? Evidently, some recipients either don't need the benefits or don't care if their children go hungry. If they have children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteowl Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 "Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) is at least £56.80 a week to help you while you look for work". If you want to spend your money, don't you first need to earn it? Yes. Most people on JSA have earnt it first by paying into National Insurance while they were working so what's the problem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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