cgksheff Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I see the arguments for getting more non whites into the police, but I don't agree with this method of achieving it. Rather than create quotas, it would be more beneficial and less problematic to target under represented groups in order engage their interest in joining the police service. I agree. They may even wish to provide support and training through community groups to help those interested to be better equipped to meet the entry requirements. But those entry requirements should be the same for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey104 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Would you like to share the evidence which proves the Met is a racist police force doing a poor job? Would the Stephen Lawrence inquiry be evidence enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Depends if it's open and free or a whitewash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairyloon Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I think the Met is beyond redemption and should disband and be built anew. But to answer the question, no, they should not discriminate, but they should address the problem by some targeted recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqueakyPete Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 This is just silly,and the idea itself is just another form of racism! ---------- Post added 28-06-2013 at 17:19 ---------- Would the Stephen Lawrence inquiry be evidence enough? Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 like it or not England is still a white majority country, but we DO have very large ethnic communities, there is a small trickle of ethnic minorities who join up, its not about discriminating against the indigenous, its about making its ranks look less like a racist institution and more like a force in the 21st centuary, AND being able to police these communities better Sorry mel but thats just claptrap. Really Sarah - which part of it is claptrap exactly? 'England is a white majority country' - True. 'Large ethnic communities' - True. 'Small numbers of ethnic minorities joining up' - True. ''its about making its ranks look less like a racist institution and more like a force in the 21st centuary'' Which bit of this do you take issue with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Human rights seem to go out the window when it comes to English speaking white folk. Writes someone whose signature is a quote by Nietzsche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaf andy Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 About 13 years ago the support worker job I applied and got (with a council) was on a GOQ basis (Genuine Occupational Qualification). The job required a male for the job rather than a female. Why was it not right for my employers to discriminate? Why was it 'a poilitically correct mindf**k'? in that case i'd say that the service users you would be supporting in that role would be uncomfortable with carers of the opposite gender, and it would be detrimental to the user's wellbeing to appoint them. that's not discrimination - that's selecting the best available candidate based upon the requirements of that particular job. under the skin, men and women are different. under the skin, there is nothing to differentiate a white man from a black man. placing one higher than the other is discrimination, full stop. good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaximus Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 in that case i'd say that the service users you would be supporting in that role would be uncomfortable with carers of the opposite gender, and it would be detrimental to the user's wellbeing to appoint them. that's not discrimination - that's selecting the best available candidate based upon the requirements of that particular job. under the skin, men and women are different. under the skin, there is nothing to differentiate a white man from a black man. placing one higher than the other is discrimination, full stop. good night. Some service users might be uncomfortable with carers of a different ethnicity and their welling being would be best served by providing careers from their ethnicity. The best person for the job in this case would need to be selected on the basis of race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqueakyPete Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Some service users might be uncomfortable with carers of a different ethnicity and their welling being would be best served by providing careers from their ethnicity. The best person for the job in this case would need to be selected on the basis of race. So if I ever need a carer in my life,do I have the right to ask for a white carer? seems a little racist to me.(and I genuinely don't know the legal answer to that either ) I can understand needing certain translators,but don't get why they would need to be of the same ethnicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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