MadManMoon Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 For months Defra have been saying that their marksmen are highly trained and Badgers will be instantly killed. Obviously no one believed this nonsense and they have now had to admit the truth. Many Badgers will slowly bleed to death over hours or even days. http://www.hsi.org/world/united_kingdom/news/releases/2013/05/badgers_defra_reveal_053013.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Sarah Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Watch the whole lot then tell me badgers dont deserve to die!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 What's so 'shocking' about saying that if you shoot an animal in the dark from some distance away you may not kill it? What have the 'Tories' got to do with it anyway? DEFRA (The Department for the Elimination of Farming and Rural Affairs) is a government department staffed by Civil Servants - not by Tory MPs or Tory Party members. Do you think that when governments change, all the Civil Servants are fired and replaced by others who are members of the incoming political party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairyloon Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 What's so 'shocking' about saying that if you shoot an animal in the dark from some distance away you may not kill it? If you cannot kill it cleanly, then you should not be trying to kill it at all. The dark is no excuse, considering how effective night vision equipment is these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 People have no problem laying poison for rats, but a shotgun isn't good enough to kill a badger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothybabe Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 People have no problem laying poison for rats, but a shotgun isn't good enough to kill a badger? Good point. ---------- Post added 30-06-2013 at 12:39 ---------- If you cannot kill it cleanly, then you should not be trying to kill it at all. The dark is no excuse, considering how effective night vision equipment is these days. Best to trap them and then shoot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 What's so 'shocking' about saying that if you shoot an animal in the dark from some distance away you may not kill it? What have the 'Tories' got to do with it anyway? DEFRA (The Department for the Elimination of Farming and Rural Affairs) is a government department staffed by Civil Servants - not by Tory MPs or Tory Party members. Do you think that when governments change, all the Civil Servants are fired and replaced by others who are members of the incoming political party? Why do you always pop up to fiercely defend everything the coalition does? By your own admission you live in Florida and Germany so why do you even care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 And on top of all this, they are feeding us bTB infected meat. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/meat-diseased-cattle-sold-defra-022232222.html#m6CmGiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMoon Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 Good point. ---------- Post added 30-06-2013 at 12:39 ---------- Best to trap them and then shoot them. There's no need to kill them at all. TB is spread by bad farmers. They want to kill Badgers to hide teir own shortcomings. NFU are behind this and they heavily donate to Tory party. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/oct/04/farming-shortcomings-badger-cull-bovine-tb?CMP=twt_gu ---------- Post added 30-06-2013 at 13:01 ---------- What's so 'shocking' about saying that if you shoot an animal in the dark from some distance away you may not kill it? What have the 'Tories' got to do with it anyway? DEFRA (The Department for the Elimination of Farming and Rural Affairs) is a government department staffed by Civil Servants - not by Tory MPs or Tory Party members. Do you think that when governments change, all the Civil Servants are fired and replaced by others who are members of the incoming political party? As you say its a goverment department, run by that well rounded human being Owen Paterson who says anti fox hunters are Nazis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 If you cannot kill it cleanly, then you should not be trying to kill it at all. The dark is no excuse, considering how effective night vision equipment is these days. You think? People have no problem laying poison for rats, but a shotgun isn't good enough to kill a badger? It depends what you've got in the shotgun. Regular shot certainly isn't good enough. Buckshot would kill a badger - but a shotgun loaded with buckshot isn't particularly accurate and the chances of merely wounding the animal would be high Good point. ---------- Post added 30-06-2013 at 12:39 ---------- Best to trap them and then shoot them. Or you could dig the badger out of the sett and dispatch it with a small-calibre bullet from a pistol to the back of the neck. Apart from the fact that you can't do that! - It's against the law. It's a cruel blood sport - even if you catch the badger as quickly as possible and dispatch it cleanly. I suppose you could always do what those nice humane New Zealanders do to possums and use 'leg hold' traps to mangle their legs or put 1080 into the Badger setts to poison them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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