Hillpig Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 I respect any Labour party supporters opinion. I accept that a hundred years ago it was necessary for workers in heavy industry to be represented. However in power Labour have been an economic disaster. Not one Labour government has left power with the country solvent. Attlee, Wilson, Callaghan, Blair/Brown. Ramsey Macdonald had the sense to ally himself with other parties. Socialism has failed. The Tories will, as they have done throughout the hundred years of Labour failure, put things right. At the next election they will gain an absolute majority. You will then see a rapid improvement when freed from the shackles of the coalition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanic99 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The Tories will, as they have done throughout the hundred years of Labour failure, put things right. At the next election they will gain an absolute majority. You will then see a rapid improvement when freed from the shackles of the coalition. Out of interest is your dislike of Labour and support for the Tories driven by your personal circumstances or that of the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Glypta Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Well I'm sorry mate but when Brown and Darling left power I was personally considerably better off than when the previous administration left. I would also add that when this current administration leaves office (hopefully) that I expect to be worse off than when they came to power. I'm sorry that you haven't experienced the same, clearly you are doing so much better under this lot than the previous administration. So why were there more people out of work when labour left office in 2010 than when they took over in 1997. This is particularly odd as there were around 500,000 more students and almost 1 million more in the public sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 So why were there more people out of work when labour left office in 2010 than when they took over in 1997. This is particularly odd as there were around 500,000 more students and almost 1 million more in the public sector. It's probably best not to trust unemployment statistics from any government in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillpig Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 Out of interest is your dislike of Labour and support for the Tories driven by your personal circumstances or that of the country? I do not dislike Labour, I voted for Blair once. I vote and support competence. The Labour party under Blair and Brown ended in economic disaster. The current Labour party is not fit to govern, it will take a generation to get rid of this lot. The foreseeable future is Tory if this country is to prosper. ---------- Post added 15-07-2013 at 00:22 ---------- It's probably best not to trust unemployment statistics from any government in the UK. Unless they support your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I do not dislike Labour, I voted for Blair once. I vote and support competence. The Labour party under Blair and Brown ended in economic disaster. The current Labour party is not fit to govern, it will take a generation to get rid of this lot. The foreseeable future is Tory if this country is to prosper. ---------- Post added 15-07-2013 at 00:22 ---------- Unless they support your opinion? It's well known that the figures are fudged. All parties in power do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 The foreseeable future is Tory if this country is to prosper. Well, we're really prospering as a nation at the moment aren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 People need to realise that none of the main parties is better or worse than the other. All have pursued destructive policies over the last 30-40 years. The policies are the same, all neoliberal. What Labour-Tories give us is a pretend left-right paradigm to argue within. It makes people happy because they think one offers an alternative to the other. Right now there is no alternative. They will give you the same thing and that is an agenda not focused on the people of this country but on the corporates who have taken control. Wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillpig Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Well, we're really prospering as a nation at the moment aren't we? Compared to the rest of Europe yes we are. ---------- Post added 15-07-2013 at 10:12 ---------- It's well known that the figures are fudged. All parties in power do it. The figures from the IMF are reliable. Hard headed international investors who are pouring money into the stock market and London property are not stupid. They know that as long as we have sensible sustainable economic policies this country is the place to be. ---------- Post added 15-07-2013 at 10:16 ---------- People need to realise that none of the main parties is better or worse than the other. All have pursued destructive policies over the last 30-40 years. The policies are the same, all neoliberal. What Labour-Tories give us is a pretend left-right paradigm to argue within. It makes people happy because they think one offers an alternative to the other. Right now there is no alternative. They will give you the same thing and that is an agenda not focused on the people of this country but on the corporates who have taken control. Wake up. Wake up to what? What is your alternative? Socialism? What model? All have failed. Neoliberal it may be, it has provided more people in work than ever in history, freedom of expression, a welfare system that is failing because of its generosity, but is recoverable. We are the most blessed generation in history. Be Thankful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Compared to the rest of Europe yes we are. ---------- Post added 15-07-2013 at 10:12 ---------- The figures from the IMF are reliable. Hard headed international investors who are pouring money into the stock market and London property are not stupid. They know that as long as we have sensible sustainable economic policies this country is the place to be. ---------- Post added 15-07-2013 at 10:16 ---------- Wake up to what? What is your alternative? Socialism? What model? All have failed. Neoliberal it may be, it has provided more people in work than ever in history, freedom of expression, a welfare system that is failing because of its generosity, but is recoverable. We are the most blessed generation in history. Be Thankful. But the Green's alternative hasn't been tried. Perhaps getting rid of all the cars, power stations, aeroplanes, ships and industry and planting broccoli in the Peace Gardens is just the answer to the world's problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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