melthebell Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23327165 Norwegian black metaller Varg Vikernes from the band Burzum has been arrested in france, hes a neo nazi aquaintence of Anders Brevik and already spent 16 years in prison for killing a "friend" i'm interested in what comes out in this one after being into extreme metal for a fair number of years and being anti neo nazi even longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 i'm interested in what comes out in this one after being into extreme metal for a fair number of years and being anti neo nazi even longer Black Metal often has links to far right politics. Voice of our blood: National Socialist discourses in black metal Extreme music for extreme people? Norwegian black metal and transcendent violence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The guy seems like a total nutter - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Neo nazi + convicted murderer + wife buying guns. Sounds like French police got him just in time. Should lock the scum up and throw away the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Black Metal often has links to far right politics. Voice of our blood: National Socialist discourses in black metal Extreme music for extreme people? Norwegian black metal and transcendent violence i know ive been into extreme metal since the 80s, i had this conversation about (norwegian in particular) black metal, neo nazism and church burning on here before, and got shot down in flames surprisingly its to do with the viking aspect and old norse mythology, odinism plus when you go down the dark route, theres nothing so dark and evil as nazism lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillpig Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I find his opinions and beliefs interesting, although I could never subscribe to them. He talks about the "Nazi Ghost" stating that right wing, racist beliefs have become discredited by what the Nazis did. If we can strip away what the Nazis did and focus on the theories behind extreme right wing beliefs there is a less threatening core which is worthy of consideration and serious debate. Equally his statements on religion are challenging, the Judao/Christian "norm" is not one he has any time for and his reversion to paganism an effort to show an alternative north European belief system. Many dismiss him as a "nutter" just as they did Hitler. Be careful, you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 I find his opinions and beliefs interesting, although I could never subscribe to them. He talks about the "Nazi Ghost" stating that right wing, racist beliefs have become discredited by what the Nazis did. If we can strip away what the Nazis did and focus on the theories behind extreme right wing beliefs there is a less threatening core which is worthy of consideration and serious debate. Equally his statements on religion are challenging, the Judao/Christian "norm" is not one he has any time for and his reversion to paganism an effort to show an alternative north European belief system. Many dismiss him as a "nutter" just as they did Hitler. Be careful, you never know. to me you CANT disassociate the nazis from right wing politics, it shows what can happen when right wing politics is left to fester, some see patriotism as benign but for some people it CAN be a platform to go on to other more extreme forms of right wing politics ---------- Post added 17-07-2013 at 11:31 ---------- just reading http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/the_lords_of_lies13.shtml Fight anti-racism and those behind it by any and all means available! No matter what they say they are the criminals, guilty of genocide against the European species! Whatever we do is an act of self-defence. Whatever we say is to defend our human species and our race from extinction. We have all the rights in the world, even according to the UN and international law, to take action to defend our species, our race and our nations. It is our duty to do so! seems hes definitely on a violent path and this one http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/war_in_europe05.shtml he says anders breivik was wrong what he did and the reason why is down to religion, as hes coming from a pagan aspect he says all the main religions used in the fight against islam all come from jews, and of middle eastern origin obviously. so according to him the EDL have it all wrong with their crusade motifs and logos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23327165 Norwegian black metaller Varg Vikernes from the band Burzum has been arrested in france, hes a neo nazi aquaintence of Anders Brevik and already spent 16 years in prison for killing a "friend" i'm interested in what comes out in this one after being into extreme metal for a fair number of years and being anti neo nazi even longer I remember reading about this guy years ago when he was suspected of killing a band mate or something. Didn't call himself a Count or a Lord back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillpig Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I remember reading about this guy years ago when he was suspected of killing a band mate or something. Didn't call himself a Count or a Lord back then? Some would argue that Nazism is not in fact right wing, that it is a perversion of the left. It was called National Socialism after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Some would argue that Nazism is not in fact right wing, that it is a perversion of the left. It was called National Socialism after all. Cool, but I think you quoted the wrong person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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