Official - less crime says Dave.

[Owethemnowt]

Crime figures are down under the Tories.

 

Interesting as the rape statistics are up.

 

I expect the police can't hide a rape case from the figures like they do most of the crime that hits our estate.

 

Afterall, if they ever catch a burglar they bail him straight off. Kids remain immune from lock up. Car crime means your on your own, as does being mugged, robbed assaulted, threatened or simply left so afraid you daren't go out.

 

Great job Cameron.

 

What next? Lower un-employment figures I expect.

[Resident]

It's nonsense. You can only take statistics from crime that's reported and the sad fact it that people don't bother any more because our "justice" system is a failure.

 

The last time I called the cops was because my father had received death threats from a problem neighbour. Sure enough the cops arrived but after explaining what happened they turned to us and said

 

"So what do you want us to do?", I said "Your job" to which the replied with "in what respect?"

[Mecky]

It's not the tories it was the ONS, a quango. Interesting the BBC ran a debate on this and it seems to fly in the face of public opinion

[Happ Hazzard]

We need a proper police FORCE, not the namby pamby police "service" that we currently have.

[muddycoffee]

The only person who can tell us whether crime statistics are up or down is God.

[jake]

It's not the tories it was the ONS, a quango. Interesting the BBC ran a debate on this and it seems to fly in the face of public opinion

 

It wouldnt be the first time the general public got things wrong - here's a list of the top ten public misconceptions

 

 

1. Teenage pregnancy:

 

on average, we think teenage pregnancy is 25 times higher than official estimates: we think that 15% of girls under 16 get pregnant each year, when official figures suggest it is around 0.6%.

 

2. Crime:

 

58% do not believe that crime is falling, when the Crime Survey for England and Wales shows that incidents of crime were 19% lower in 2012 than in 2006/07 and 53% lower than in 1995[ii]. 51% think violent crime is rising, when it has fallen from almost 2.5 million incidents in 2006/07 to under 2 million in 2012[iii].

 

3. Job-seekers allowance:

 

29% of people think we spend more on JSA than pensions, when in fact we spend 15 times more on pensions (£4.9bn vs £74.2bn)[iv].

 

4. Benefit fraud:

 

people estimate that 34 times more benefit money is claimed fraudulently than official estimates: the public think that £24 out of every £100 spent on benefits is claimed fraudulently, compared with official estimates of £0.70 per £100[v].

 

5. Foreign aid:

 

26% of people think foreign aid is one of the top 2-3 items government spends most money on, when it actually made up 1.1% of expenditure (£7.9bn) in the 2011/12 financial year. More people select this as a top item of expenditure than pensions (which cost nearly ten times as much, £74bn) and education in the UK (£51.5bn)[vi].

 

6. Religion:

 

we greatly overestimate the proportion of the population who are Muslims: on average we say 24%, compared with 5% in England and Wales. And we underestimate the proportion of Christians: we estimate 34% on average, compared with the actual proportion of 59% in England and Wales[vii].

 

7. Immigration and ethnicity:

 

the public think that 31% of the population are immigrants, when the official figures are 13%[viii]. Even estimates that attempt to account for illegal immigration suggest a figure closer to 15%. There are similar misperceptions on ethnicity: the average estimate is that Black and Asian people make up 30% of the population, when it is actually 11% (or 14% if we include mixed and other non-white ethnic groups)[ix].

 

8. Age:

 

we think the population is much older than it actually is – the average estimate is that 36% of the population are 65+, when only 16% are[x].

 

9. Benefit bill:

 

people are most likely to think that capping benefits at £26,000 per household will save most money from a list provided (33% pick this option), over twice the level that select raising the pension age to 66 for both men and women or stopping child benefit when someone in the household earns £50k+. In fact, capping household benefits is estimated to save £290m[xi], compared with £5bn[xii] for raising the pension age and £1.7bn[xiii] for stopping child benefit for wealthier households.

 

10. Voting:

 

we underestimate the proportion of people who voted in the last general election – our average guess is 43%, when 65% of the electorate actually did (51% of the whole population)[xiv].

 

From a survey by Ipsos MORI for the Royal Statistical Society and King’s College London

 

http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3188/Perceptions-are-not-reality-the-top-10-we-get-wrong.aspx

[Resident]

 

Regarding the crime portion of what you've just copied from another website. "Incidents of crime" refers to REPORTED crime. Since a lot of crime goes unnoticed/unreported then those figures are completely inaccurate.

 

The truth is that people no longer have confidence in the justice system. It's a case of IF tbh.

 

IF the police bother to investigate beyond the initial report

IF when the actually arrest and charge someone, the CPS decides to take it to trial. From personal experience the common excuse for not prosecuting is lack of evidence. From personal experience anything up to and including clear CCTV footage can be "insufficient"

Even IF they prosecute and secure a conviction, the chances of a proper sentence fitting the crime are minimal because our judges are soft in the head.

[jake]

Regarding the crime portion of what you've just copied from another website. "Incidents of crime" refers to REPORTED crime. Since a lot of crime goes unnoticed/unreported then those figures are completely inaccurate.

 

The truth is that people no longer have confidence in the justice system. It's a case of IF tbh.

 

IF the police bother to investigate beyond the initial report

IF when the actually arrest and charge someone, the CPS decides to take it to trial. From personal experience the common excuse for not prosecuting is lack of evidence. From personal experience anything up to and including clear CCTV footage can be "insufficient"

Even IF they prosecute and secure a conviction, the chances of a proper sentence fitting the crime are minimal because our judges are soft in the head.

 

When was the justice system ever better? I think you may have a slightly rose tinted view of the past.

 

Most crime has always gone unreported - and we've probably got less tolerance of violence than - say - the 70s when pubs fights and wife beating were pretty much accepted

[Mecky]

It wouldnt be the first time the general public got things wrong - here's a list of the top ten public misconceptions

 

 

1. Teenage pregnancy:

 

on average, we think teenage pregnancy is 25 times higher than official estimates: we think that 15% of girls under 16 get pregnant each year, when official figures suggest it is around 0.6%.

 

2. Crime:

 

58% do not believe that crime is falling, when the Crime Survey for England and Wales shows that incidents of crime were 19% lower in 2012 than in 2006/07 and 53% lower than in 1995[ii]. 51% think violent crime is rising, when it has fallen from almost 2.5 million incidents in 2006/07 to under 2 million in 2012[iii].

 

3. Job-seekers allowance:

 

29% of people think we spend more on JSA than pensions, when in fact we spend 15 times more on pensions (£4.9bn vs £74.2bn)[iv].

 

4. Benefit fraud:

 

people estimate that 34 times more benefit money is claimed fraudulently than official estimates: the public think that £24 out of every £100 spent on benefits is claimed fraudulently, compared with official estimates of £0.70 per £100[v].

 

5. Foreign aid:

 

26% of people think foreign aid is one of the top 2-3 items government spends most money on, when it actually made up 1.1% of expenditure (£7.9bn) in the 2011/12 financial year. More people select this as a top item of expenditure than pensions (which cost nearly ten times as much, £74bn) and education in the UK (£51.5bn)[vi].

 

6. Religion:

 

we greatly overestimate the proportion of the population who are Muslims: on average we say 24%, compared with 5% in England and Wales. And we underestimate the proportion of Christians: we estimate 34% on average, compared with the actual proportion of 59% in England and Wales[vii].

 

7. Immigration and ethnicity:

 

the public think that 31% of the population are immigrants, when the official figures are 13%[viii]. Even estimates that attempt to account for illegal immigration suggest a figure closer to 15%. There are similar misperceptions on ethnicity: the average estimate is that Black and Asian people make up 30% of the population, when it is actually 11% (or 14% if we include mixed and other non-white ethnic groups)[ix].

 

8. Age:

 

we think the population is much older than it actually is – the average estimate is that 36% of the population are 65+, when only 16% are[x].

 

9. Benefit bill:

 

people are most likely to think that capping benefits at £26,000 per household will save most money from a list provided (33% pick this option), over twice the level that select raising the pension age to 66 for both men and women or stopping child benefit when someone in the household earns £50k+. In fact, capping household benefits is estimated to save £290m[xi], compared with £5bn[xii] for raising the pension age and £1.7bn[xiii] for stopping child benefit for wealthier households.

 

10. Voting:

 

we underestimate the proportion of people who voted in the last general election – our average guess is 43%, when 65% of the electorate actually did (51% of the whole population)[xiv].

 

From a survey by Ipsos MORI for the Royal Statistical Society and King’s College London

 

http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3188/Perceptions-are-not-reality-the-top-10-we-get-wrong.aspx

 

By and large most of the public only know what they are told by the media and lately I've begun to question the media because a lot of it doesn't add up or a particular article will very loosely corroborate with another story. Most of it is just spin, sensationalist rubbish, political steers and opinions

[Tradescanthia]

Same old recycled crap. This story comes out every year.

Where are our 'local Police'. Highgreen doesn't get any 'local Policing'

Sorry Smarmy Dave, you are a liar, and a poor one at that........