tinfoilhat Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 yeah if those figures had been released by Labour they'd have been true and brilliant. I think there is a grain of truth about losing confidence in the justice system though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anywebsite Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 It's nonsense. You can only take statistics from crime that's reported and the sad fact it that people don't bother any more because our "justice" system is a failure. The last time I called the cops was because my father had received death threats from a problem neighbour. Sure enough the cops arrived but after explaining what happened they turned to us and said "So what do you want us to do?", I said "Your job" to which the replied with "in what respect?" It's not just reported crime that is down. Those figures are of course nonsense & reflect what the police want to report as a crime. The British Crime Survey gives a much more accurate reflection of the number of crimes committed, independent of the police, that's also gone down almost every year since 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 It's not just reported crime that is down. Those figures are of course nonsense & reflect what the police want to report as a crime. The British Crime Survey gives a much more accurate reflection of the number of crimes committed, independent of the police, that's also gone down almost every year since 1995. They've just had a Prof of Clever Stuff & Criminology at Oxford on Newsnight - who was confirming crime is on the way down in all recorded figures across Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anywebsite Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 They've just had a Prof of Clever Stuff & Criminology at Oxford on Newsnight - who was confirming crime is on the way down in all recorded figures across Europe Similar drops in the USA too. I heard it could be linked to bans on lead in paint, petrol, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Great job Cameron. He's been just as ineffectual as any other PM over the past few decades. No more, no less. How ‘Labour is covering up truth on knife crime’ Tories accused of fiddling violent crime statistics to show increase under Labour It's much easier (and cheaper) to manage statistics than to actually do anything about crime. Guess which option politicians choose? ---------- Post added 18-07-2013 at 23:47 ---------- who was confirming crime is on the way down in all recorded figures across Europe Meanwhile, in the real world..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anywebsite Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 [daily express link] [daily mail link] Meanwhile, in the real world..... Crime has been falling across most of the developed world for over a decade, nearly two. There are about half as many crimes committed in England & Wales as there were at the peak in 1995 http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/period-ending-march-2013/sty-crime-in-england-and-wales.html Less crime now than 30 years ago & that's been the case for the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteowl Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Crime has been falling across most of the developed world for over a decade, nearly two. There are about half as many crimes committed in England & Wales as there were at the peak in 1995 http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/period-ending-march-2013/sty-crime-in-england-and-wales.html Less crime now than 30 years ago & that's been the case for the last 10 years. I agree there's less recorded crime now than before. I mean, why would you bother ? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23334221 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janlizzy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 The only person who can tell us whether crime statistics are up or down is God. No he cannot,unless you are deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anywebsite Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I agree there's less recorded crime now than before. I mean, why would you bother ? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23334221 If you look at the link it's not about recorded crime, it's a crime survey where they (not police) ask people about their experience of crime. This crime survey is what has shown the steepest falls in crime, as the police didn't record many more crimes when crime peaked in this country. A higher proportion of crime gets recorded now than it used to. And 'not pursued' isn't the same as 'not recorded'. Stop just picking random links & try to stay on topic. They wouldn't know that 75% weren't pursued if they weren't recording them, that's 75% of the ones reported to police & recorded as crimes that weren't pursued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernStar Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Not having any particular reason to believe nor disbelieve the figures I have no idea but perhaps less coppers = less detection could be a reason. ....or it could just be the lull before the storm. 9% down on the year seems too remarkable to be true to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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