boyfriday Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 You don't think they believe their murderous actions are sanctioned by their god, a gift to their god or doing gods work? No they're not, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJCFi26BRUw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Do you have a comment to make on the link, as you are meant to when posting links? i did, i asked a question in response to your comments, are islamists the link between turning religion AND politics into a weapon of terror? they see both as one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Hmm, it's a possibility but I think the catalyst was him being here at the time of Lee Rigby's murder, again assuming he's guilty of course. Assuming he's guilty of the murder of Mohammed Saleem then that's not possible, Mr Saleem was murdered in late April, Lee was killed on my birthday (22nd May). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 i did, i asked a question in response to your comments, are islamists the link between turning religion AND politics into a weapon of terror? they see both as one Islam as both a religion and political ideology are inseparable. In that sense, every Muslim is an Islamist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaximus Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 i did, i asked a question in response to your comments, are islamists the link between turning religion AND politics into a weapon of terror? they see both as one Islam is a politicle idology. Religious concepts and practices include the five pillars of Islam, which are basic concepts and obligatory acts of worship, and following Islamic law, which touches on virtually every aspect of life and society, providing guidance on multifarious topics from banking and welfare, to warfare and the environment. Sharia is the moral code and religious law of Islam. Sharia deals with many topics addressed by secular law, including crime, politics, and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, hygiene, diet, prayer, and fasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Assuming he's guilty of the murder of Mohammed Saleem then that's not possible, Mr Saleem was murdered in late April, Lee was killed on my birthday (22nd May). Thanks for clarifying that Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Islam as both a religion and political ideology are inseparable. In that sense, every Muslim is an Islamist. not according to my link , it divides opinion like ive always said believe it or not, everybodys different even in islam lol, people interpret things differently, people believe things differently, think differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Islam as both a religion and political ideology are inseparable. In that sense, every Muslim is an Islamist. Islam is a politicle idology. But what you don't know is how much (or little) each Muslim subscribes to the doctrine as you describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 not according to my link , it divides opinion like ive always said believe it or not, everybodys different even in islam lol, people interpret things differently, people believe things differently, think differently Not saying their is anything wrong with religious belief informing ones political views. A Christian might be against gay marriage, abortion, Sunday opening hours for shops, and might favour tax breaks for married couples. It's to be expected and perfectly reasonable, but we wouldn't call them Christianists....they're just Christians, so I'm perplexed as for the need for a separate wordto describe political Islam, when in reality political views of ordinary Muslims are bound to be influenced to some extent by their religion which is after all a collection of beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Not saying their is anything wrong with religious belief informing ones political views. A Christian might be against gay marriage, abortion, Sunday opening hours for shops, and might favour tax breaks for married couples. It's to be expected and perfectly reasonable, but we wouldn't call them Christianists....they're just Christians, so I'm perplexed as for the need for a separate wordto describe political Islam, when in reality political views of ordinary Muslims are bound to be influenced to some extent by their religion which is after all a collection of beliefs. because i think its a later more extreme form, as we know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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