megalithic Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 We've been informed there are no.plans to Frack in Stannington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I'm no expert, but doesn't the Infrastructure Act 2015 make this obsolete? The Act is at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/7/contents Please look at it and report-back whether (and where) it supports your view. Section 45 seems to support my view, you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoatwobbler Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 The views of Natascha Engel, Labour MP for North East Derbyshire on proposals for fracking near Eckington. Goes directly against Labour party policy and will be something of a slap in the face for the majority of local residents opposed to fracking. https://nataschaengel.com/fracking/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 The views of Natascha Engel, Labour MP for North East Derbyshire on proposals for fracking near Eckington. Goes directly against Labour party policy and will be something of a slap in the face for the majority of local residents opposed to fracking. https://nataschaengel.com/fracking/ Thank you for providing a link to a well reasoned account. An example of a prospective MP explaining their position rather than following sheep. And without resorting to "...slap in the face ..." arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestman Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 The video is misleading in that it shows the shale being fractured to be near the surface and the fractures themselves are way out of scale. The fractures extend from a few centimeters, to the top of the shale being fracked. Above the shale there will be an impermeable layer (otherwise the gas will have permeated out as it formed) The gas bearing shales are generally thousands of feet deep, although coal bed methane is shallower. Horizontal drilling allows rigs to be positioned in less sensitive areas, such as in Wytch farm in Dorset where millions of barrels of oil have been extracted from wells in the Jurassic Coast world heritage site near and under Poole Harbour. The rigs are on site for a few weeks then move on leaving a small valve system. There have been more than 2000 wells drilled on land in the UK, that's more than one per town, have you ever seen one? No, because the oil companies are aware of the sensitivity of hydrocarbon exploration on land and take great care to cause minimum disruption. Shale gas development will bring jobs, revenue for the government and increase the standard of living for everyone. Bring it on I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoatwobbler Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Thank you for providing a link to a well reasoned account. An example of a prospective MP explaining their position rather than following sheep. And without resorting to "...slap in the face ..." arguments. You do realise that she's only going to get thrashed even harder because of this don't you? Tories are heavily targeting North East Derbyshire, and they know when to keep their mouths shut on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 You do realise that she's only going to get thrashed even harder because of this don't you? Tories are heavily targeting North East Derbyshire, and they know when to keep their mouths shut on this subject. So the party that has been an advocate and actively promotes fracking as a policy is going to "...keep their mouths shut..." and no one in the area is going to notice? what their national policy is? At least one MP is trying to explain their position and not resorting to slapstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grietje Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) The video is misleading in that it shows the shale being fractured to be near the surface and the fractures themselves are way out of scale. The fractures extend from a few centimeters, to the top of the shale being fracked. Above the shale there will be an impermeable layer (otherwise the gas will have permeated out as it formed). I'm pro-fracking too, but just a one scientific point. It's the shale that's impermeable. That's why it needs fracking to release the hydrocarbons within it, it has high porosity, but low permeability. The layers above it could be either permeable or impermeable depending on local geology. However, with a thousand feet or more above it any rock layers above it would be effectively impermeable. Edited May 13, 2017 by Grietje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1978 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 The views of Natascha Engel, Labour MP for North East Derbyshire on proposals for fracking near Eckington. Goes directly against Labour party policy and will be something of a slap in the face for the majority of local residents opposed to fracking. https://nataschaengel.com/fracking/ A well written explanation which echoes the reasoning expressed to me by a career geologist friend with 50 years international active experience to rely on. Natascha is a brave lady to take this line, especially as her constituency must be considered marginal in the current election. If in her constituency I might vote for her honesty, if not for her party. Those living near a fracking site need protection nevertheless, and that's what she seems to be trying constructively to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoatwobbler Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 So the party that has been an advocate and actively promotes fracking as a policy is going to "...keep their mouths shut..." and no one in the area is going to notice? what their national policy is? At least one MP is trying to explain their position and not resorting to slapstick. Dronfield Conservatives have made a point of opposing the fracking proposal! The fact that this policy is in direct contradiction of Westminster Tory policy is yet to catch up with them. And the Tory candidate for North East Derbyshire is not mentioning the issue much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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