altus Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Which wasnt the question asked.... If people are concerned about the impact fracking might have on them it is relevant though. You wouldn't claim nuclear bombs have been exploded at Bikini Atoll so you shouldn't worry about them being exploded down the road. Fracking occurring where it isn't going to affect them isn't going to be much of a concern either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Again that's not the question that was being asked..... With a long history of fracking in the North Sea, do you not think that perhaps these people do know what they are doing in these source rocks, and what the likleyhood of problems is? Fracking is not some new and untested technique. despite the claims of the ill informed rabble like frack off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Again that's not the question that was being asked..... With a long history of fracking in the North Sea, do you not think that perhaps these people do know what they are doing in these source rocks, and what the likleyhood of problems is? Fracking is not some new and untested technique. despite the claims of the ill informed rabble like frack off. Given the historic and continuing pollution caused by oil industry mining operations I think being sceptical of their safety claims is a reasonable position to take - particularly as the stakes in this case, i.e. our water supply, are so much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I didn't think you could contract with a minor? True, except for 'necessaries'. Wouldn't it be very easy for these children to ignore the contract as they could justifiably say they didn't understand the terms of offer. Yes, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 True in the US, or true in the UK. Only US contract law would matter for this instance, and the large company with the lawyers obviously think that they can include minors in this gagging/settlement contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peer Gynt Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Stop "fracking" before it starts. And keep paying more for imported gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hans Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Scaremongering by wealthy upper middle class people with an agenda and properties in the countryside. I mean, it's easy to scare people with a cartoon and the exaggerations in that video were just mind boggling, maybe if they portrayed factually accurate images of what it would actually look like their video would be more credible, but also people would be a lot less bothered by the actual reality. Do people think that the UK hasn't been drilling for oil and gas onshore in the UK for decades? There are oil rigs all over the UK on land and nobody is batting an eyelid, I'm guessing a group of multi millionaires have put a fear campaign together because they don't want it in their back yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peer Gynt Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Scaremongering by wealthy upper middle class people with an agenda and properties in the countryside. I mean, it's easy to scare people with a cartoon and the exaggerations in that video were just mind boggling, maybe if they portrayed factually accurate images of what it would actually look like their video would be more credible, but also people would be a lot less bothered by the actual reality. Do people think that the UK hasn't been drilling for oil and gas onshore in the UK for decades? There are oil rigs all over the UK on land and nobody is batting an eyelid, I'm guessing a group of multi millionaires have put a fear campaign together because they don't want it in their back yard. That they paid for with the cash that they milked off from North Sea Oil & Gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalithic Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 And keep paying more for imported gas. Yes. ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagel Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Again that's not the question that was being asked..... With a long history of fracking in the North Sea, do you not think that perhaps these people do know what they are doing in these source rocks, and what the likleyhood of problems is? Fracking is not some new and untested technique. despite the claims of the ill informed rabble like frack off. Yes, 'fracking' has been done since the 1950s to extract more oil and gas from reservoir rocks. It involves pumping fluid into the reservoir together with tiny beads to fill the fractures and hold them open. That increases the permeability of the rock and increases the percentage of oil and gas that can be recovered. What's new is fracturing shale to extract gas and oil. A shale isn't a natural reservoir as it's totally impermeable so it's necessary to pump down large quantities of water and chemicals to break down the shale and release the trapped hydrocarbons it contains. So, it is a new technique. The oil industry itself uses the terms conventional and unconventional to distinguish the two different techniques. ---------- Post added 08-08-2013 at 18:24 ---------- These emails make interesting reading. It seem that the whole shale gas/fracking technique might have been oversold and turn out to be uneconomic - http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/us/natural-gas-drilling-down-documents-4.html#document/p11/a22740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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