Mecky Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Errr ummm nope, looks like they forgot to speak to me.......or anyone else for that matter!! You might want to read 631 again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawny1970 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 You might want to read 631 again They are NOT acting on my behalf at all, they are just being prats who are causing more problems and should go home and let people work in piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Im sorry but I think its brill, in the usa the price of gas has dropped through the floor since fracking started, if it drops our gas bill the go for it I say! Different geology and different markets in the US. Even our own Energy Minister Ed Davey says it will not lead to a reduction in prices. Cameron can claim it will all he wants, but in doing so he is going against what the Government's Official Advisers say. " Mr Cameron's comments were also shot down by David Kennedy, head of the Committee on Climate Change - the government's official adviser - who said that "fundamental economics" showed bills were unlikely to fall. "People are very worried about the energy bills and it's tempting to look across to America and say, 'look what shale gas has done there, it's caused gas prices to plummet, we would love that to happen here', and then to say 'well it will happen here'," he said. "It is highly unlikely to happen here. There isn't enough shale gas in the UK and in Europe to change the European market price." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawny1970 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Different geology and different markets in the US. Even our own Energy Minister Ed Davey says it will not lead to a reduction in prices. Cameron can claim it will all he wants, but in doing so he is going against what the Government's Official Advisers say. " Mr Cameron's comments were also shot down by David Kennedy, head of the Committee on Climate Change - the government's official adviser - who said that "fundamental economics" showed bills were unlikely to fall. "People are very worried about the energy bills and it's tempting to look across to America and say, 'look what shale gas has done there, it's caused gas prices to plummet, we would love that to happen here', and then to say 'well it will happen here'," he said. "It is highly unlikely to happen here. There isn't enough shale gas in the UK and in Europe to change the European market price." So 50% of UK has shale gas,even if they got 10% out, it would still give us 150 years worth of gas without having to import any more!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alternageek Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Mod Note: Threads merged, please use the search function before creating a new thread. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 They are NOT acting on my behalf at all, they are just being prats who are causing more problems and should go home and let people work in piece Nobody has to ask you what you think to speak on your behalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why "go all out" for an unconventional technology? That doesn't make sense. Probably the best thing to do is set up a number of fracking sites in the Tory heartlands and see how it goes. If the experiment goes ok then expand. Obviously if Labour were in power and pushing this then they would have to put their money where their mouth is too - sites in the Labour heartlands first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertramp Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why "go all out" for an unconventional technology? That doesn't make sense. Probably the best thing to do is set up a number of fracking sites in the Tory heartlands and see how it goes. If the experiment goes ok then expand. Obviously if Labour were in power and pushing this then they would have to put their money where their mouth is too - sites in the Labour heartlands first. Or instead of politicising everything, why don't some actual scientists do some research and pick the best or safest sites and we can crack on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Glypta Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So 50% of UK has shale gas,even if they got 10% out, it would still give us 150 years worth of gas without having to import any more!! When the deals are done some areas of the country will dish out licenses and some won't. It appears that a region that grants licenses will get a reward. At the moment the rewards offered are a first bargaining chip, but even so it seems like £100,000 per test drilling, 1% of revenue from the project plus a figure of £1.7 million per well. On top of this a local authority would keep 100% of business rates instead of 50%. In Sheffield business rates contribute around £150 million per year. So a council and local community that allows fracking will have far more cash at its disposal than one that doesn't. So in the end it is up to local people whether they want any potential risks from fracking in exchange for a rather large financial gain. I wonder whether fracking poses any bigger risk than mining used to. If greenpeace and the other unwashed groups were around 200 years ago it is doubtful that we would ever have had a coal industry or steel industry at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) So now we're letting the French do testing that's illegal in their own back yard. When will people wake up to the dangers of this. Dangers of what? I read on one site that fracking has been going on since the 1940s. fracking is not new and has been used without previous controversy since the 1940s. A spokesman for Cuadrilla said that an existing gas well at Elswick, near one of its sites in Lancashire, was fracked 20 years ago by its then owners, British Gas, in “almost exactly the same way” as at Cuadrilla’s shale sites now. http://www.naturalgaseurope.com/shale-opponents-misrepresent-risks-3719 Where were the protesters back then? How much death and destruction has there been in Elswick? the biggest oroblem with fracking is the loonies climbing on lorries Not for the police: Flare 'fired at police helicopter' near Salford protest camp http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-25622863 Why "go all out" for an unconventional technology? That doesn't make sense. Probably the best thing to do is set up a number of fracking sites in the Tory heartlands and see how it goes. If the experiment goes ok then expand. Obviously if Labour were in power and pushing this then they would have to put their money where their mouth is too - sites in the Labour heartlands first. Unconventional? Its been going on since the 1940s. How about Elswick, that's had a fracking site since 1993 and has a Conservative MP - Mark Menzies. And sites in the Wirral which may be fracked have Tory Esther McVey as their MP. Edited January 14, 2014 by alchresearch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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