RootsBooster Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It's both. Methane is a molecule. It is not energy. It stores energy, is a molecule that has chemical potential energy. That potential is realised in certain conditions like igniting it when oxygen is present. Yes it has energy but it is not energy. I've never denied it. If it's made up of atoms and bonds, then it is indeed energy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanava Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 If it's made up of atoms and bonds, then it is indeed energy No its not, its matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeMac Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I've already said that but thanks for agreeing. In which case methane and (more importantly) it's constituent atoms are indeed energy. Q.E.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanava Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 In which case methane and (more importantly) it's constituent atoms are indeed energy. Q.E.D. No, its matter and all matter as the potential to release energy, but matter isn't energy and energy isn't matter. Matter can become energy and energy can become matter but something can't be both at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeMac Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No, its matter and all matter as the potential to release energy, but matter isn't energy and energy isn't matter. Matter can become energy and energy can become matter but something can't be both at the same time. Einstein will be thrilled to know that you've refined his ideas. Some might uncharitably say "over simplified". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No its not, its matter. Why do you keep saying that? Nobody's denying that it's matter, it's just you denying that it's energy. If you disagree with the 9 forms of energy then you should tell it to science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanava Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Einstein will be thrilled to know that you've refined his ideas. Some might uncharitably say "over simplified". I haven't changed it, you just appear not to understand the difference between energy and matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeMac Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I haven't changed it, you just appear not to understand the difference between energy and matter. That is because they are interchangeable. You do understand what "interchangeable" means, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanava Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Why do you keep saying that? Nobody's denying that it's matter, it's just you denying that it's energy. If you disagree with the 9 forms of energy then you should tell it to science. All matter contains potencial energy, but the matter isn't energy. A brick is matter, not energy, but it does have the potencial to release energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeMac Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 All matter contains potencial energy, but the matter isn't energy. A brick is matter, not energy, but it does have the potencial to release energy. Wrong. The atoms that make up a brick can be viewed as energy. Indeed you need to view them as such to explain many of their properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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