melthebell Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 You are the OP are you not, and therefore chose the title. which i took from the news article which is taken from the court case A NEIGHBOUR from hell has been jailed after a five-year race hate campaign against a German man living next door West was convicted of racially aggravated harassment and given a 12-month restraining order which included a ban on referring to the couple on the web so tell me can you racially aggravate somebody or commit a race hate campaign without being a racist? yes or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 which i took from the news article which is taken from the court case so tell me can you racially aggravate somebody or commit a race hate campaign without being a racist? yes or no? Not necessarily. If the German was white skinned like the accused then no, I don't see how it can be termed racially motivated. Xenophobic yes. Racist no. Everything he did points to him referencing the German's nationality and particularly referencing the war with poppies, mentions of Dunkirk etc, but nothing referencing the person's skin colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Not necessarily. If the German was white skinned like the accused then no, I don't see how it can be termed racially motivated. Xenophobic yes. Racist no. Everything he did points to him referencing the German's nationality and particularly referencing the war with poppies, mentions of Dunkirk etc, but nothing referencing the person's skin colour. race isnt just about colour Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism i posted about germanic ethnic themes earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 race isnt just about colour from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism i posted about germanic ethnic themes earlier It might not be just about colour, but it certainly isn't just about nationality, which seems to have been the theme of the provocations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 It might not be just about colour, but it certainly isn't just about nationality, which seems to have been the theme of the provocations. as i said, im not the one making up his crimes, the judiciary did, maybe race hate is the closest they could get? maybe we both should agree to disagree and agree that that was the case lol since we could argue all night about the semantics in the case, thing is, whether racist or xenophobic he was wrong, and hateful and only did it cos he got a bee in his bonnet about the mans nationality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 i wasnt the one that decided if it was race or not, and yup racists are generally abit dim when it comes to our / their history, a hell of alot of us are part german lol mind u this one does seem a bit dimmer than the rest, like vague boys quote shows lmao Then how can it be racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Then how can it be racist? cos hes an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 cos hes an idiot But you post against your own, does that make you an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 But you post against your own, does that make you an idiot? da wot? .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanman Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Reading the article I fail to see the crime. When has it been against the law to display the Union Jack or poppies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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