tinfoilhat Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Sounds absolutely awful. http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23442018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 RIP to the victims and thoughts with the survivors. Hideous that "people" think this is an acceptable way to make whatever the hell their point is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 RIP to the victims and thoughts with the survivors. Hideous that "people" think this is an acceptable way to make whatever the hell their point is. From what I've read it's an accident. I hope that remains the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Looking at the Spanish media the reports are 50/50. A lot of witnesses reporting an explosion at the point of the first carriage derailing. Hopefully as you say a tragic accident, not that it would be of a great deal of comfort to the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 That section of track and the bridge is very new - it was only recently laid. Not sure if that could be an issue but there has been a lot of work going on there recently. It looks terrible the train appears to have come off almost directly into the concrete sidings. Hopefully the explosion reports are not something sinister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Hideous that "people" think this is an acceptable way to make whatever the hell their point is. A lot of witnesses reporting an explosion at the point of the first carriage derailing. El Pais is quoting a source close to the investigation that the train was going at up to 180kph when it should have been doing less than 80kph. So hideous would be a good way of describing someone insinuating that there was an explosion, whatever andygardner's point would be. From the Telegraph "Spain’s Interior Ministry, however, quickly dismissed a terrorist attack as the cause of the derailment. “It was going so quickly it seems that on a curve the train started to twist and the wagons piled up one on top of the other,” Ricardo Montesco, a passenger on the train, told Cadena Ser radio." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Looking at the trackbed on the photos it looks in remarkably good shape - theres no damage really that you would see if a derailed train ran along the track. If it was going to fast then it just came to the curve and fell of the side of it - that sounds quite plausible and the speed obviously made the damage much worse. News has just reported over 70 dead now, this is a really nasty pileup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Looking at the trackbed on the photos it looks in remarkably good shape - theres no damage really that you would see if a derailed train ran along the track. If it was going to fast then it just came to the curve and fell of the side of it - that sounds quite plausible and the speed obviously made the damage much worse. News has just reported over 70 dead now, this is a really nasty pileup Looking at this footage it looks as though the train is off the track in several places before the bend tightens. There is a flash, but it is long after the train has derailed and looks like the overhead power lines to me. http://news.sky.com/story/1120288/spain-train-crash-footage-of-disaster-emerges My impression is the train has left the rails as it goes under the road bridge and either broke a rail which brought the rear carriages off or the rail was broken before the train arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Looking at this footage it looks as though the train is off the track in several places before the bend tightens. There is a flash, but it is long after the train has derailed and looks like the overhead power lines to me. http://news.sky.com/story/1120288/spain-train-crash-footage-of-disaster-emerges My impression is the train has left the rails as it goes under the road bridge and either broke a rail which brought the rear carriages off or the rail was broken before the train arrived. 7 seconds into the footage the carriage behind the power car looks to be in the air before the bend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 The carriage behind the power car look to be in the air before the bend... My thoughts. Then the back carriages start flying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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