Obelix Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 You say you like Americans but hate our government, No I never said that. Take a look at the adjective I used which was far from hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Nearly commented on this a few posts back but relented, but. I agree totally with this. This forum is obsessed with links. Anything said has for some reason to be backed up with proof. For some reason people are incapable of having opinions of their own and if they do invariably they are ignored as unsubstantiated rubbish. If links are all that matters why bother debating. I want to listen to people that are earnest in their opinion without the need to put forward what is after all someone elses earnest opinion. Thank you, it nice to see someone else who can debate without the ever present blue stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Our respective governments bulk dump us with *******t everyday. What's good for the goose n all that. So if some git goes and makes the entire medical records of the country public domain then that's OK because y'no..governments and that...bs man! Very very poor level of argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Our respective governments bulk dump us with *******t everyday. What's good for the goose n all that. But this traitor would have signed the American version of the official secrets act so deserves everything that is coming his way . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 There was a time when people had opinions of their own and not pasted up something that was the work of someone else. Says someone who does little but post CIA propaganda on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peer Gynt Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 It isn't going to happen, so suck it up and get on with your miserable existence, instead of trolling the internet with moronic gibberish. people like you always support the perpetrator and not the victims or potential victims. ---------- Post added 07-08-2013 at 08:09 ---------- But this traitor would have signed the American version of the official secrets act so deserves everything that is coming his way . Couldn't agree more. In the UK it was "You take the kings shilling, you do the kings bidding". You can't opt in and opt out when it suits you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syne Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 people like you always support the perpetrator and not the victims or potential victims. ---------- Post added 07-08-2013 at 08:09 ---------- Couldn't agree more. In the UK it was "You take the kings shilling, you do the kings bidding". You can't opt in and opt out when it suits you. Wrong, you can. 'the king' might not like it when you expose him for what he is, but the king would have also taken an oath to god, the realm and his people. It cuts both ways. If there was nothing that whistleblowers exposed that was illegal or morally defunct you'd have no-one defending them. As it stands we are seeing lies and murder uncovered and you are by default defending liars and murderers because someone turned 'traitor'. To stand idly by while bad deeds happen is a worse crime than to break a vow to a fiction. As for perpetrator and victims you'd do well to remember that victims aren't limited to rich people in the western world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peer Gynt Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 If there was nothing that whistleblowers exposed that was illegal or morally defunct you'd have no-one defending them. Utter tripe and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 people like you always support the perpetrator and not the victims or potential victims. ---------- Post added 07-08-2013 at 08:09 ---------- Couldn't agree more. In the UK it was "You take the kings shilling, you do the kings bidding". You can't opt in and opt out when it suits you. The Nuremberg trials, Calley after My Lai etc all established that it is a soldiers right, indeed duty to refuse illegal orders..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 So if some git goes and makes the entire medical records of the country public domain then that's OK because y'no..governments and that...bs man! Very very poor level of argument. Agreed, a very very poor level of argument generally on this thread. The false equivalency that you just used, being another example of 'no argument at all'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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