Harleyman Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Complete obfuscation.... Are you saying that what Manning exposed was not the truth? You need to read more, and watch something other than the Daily Brainwash. Mostly a lot of nothing and apparently of no use to the enemy as the court decided. You have no idea of military law however. He violated military law by releasing information that the military in their wisdom classified as secret. You dont go pulling that stuff... not in any man's army. He disobeyed standing orders and violated his oath of loyalty to his President, his army and his fellow soldiers. For that he deserved the punishment he got. I presume the guy wasnt stupid. He knew perfectly well what he was doing and what the consequences were. Maybe he fell in love with Julian Assange and it was meant to win that person's admiration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Yes we are, there is no clear knowledge here about the facts of life in US prisons. I suppose the ones in Britain are filled with pure minded souls, but ours are not. We have solitary confinement as a way to prevent harm to any convict who needs it, and if he thinks he's as pretty as this traitor does, they'll be happy to oblige nothing of the sort, even tho i got and laughed at your post about not being in solitary, its not really family friendly, thats why i think it got pulled NOT cos its american based Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Absolutely nothing, Agreed. So why? I'm happy to say. I've no doubt. Bread and water would be appropriate. Sorry Ronny. Won't happen. Sorry bucky. ---------- Post added 23-08-2013 at 22:09 ---------- Mostly a lot of nothing and apparently of no use to the enemy as the court decided. You have no idea of military law however. He violated military law by releasing information that the military in their wisdom classified as secret. You dont go pulling that stuff... not in any man's army. He disobeyed standing orders and violated his oath of loyalty to his President, his army and his fellow soldiers. For that he deserved the punishment he got. I presume the guy wasnt stupid. He knew perfectly well what he was doing and what the consequences were. Maybe he fell in love with Julian Assange and it was meant to win that person's admiration Oh dear, this is why men kill. They just love to strap it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Agreed. So why? I've no doubt. Won't happen. Sorry bucky. ---------- Post added 23-08-2013 at 22:09 ---------- Oh dear, this is why men kill. They just love to strap it on. People elect politicians. Politicians are often poor masters of diplomacy. When failure occurs its the armies who have to go and fight and try and straighten out the whole nasty mess. Put the blame where it belongs. Armies only ever existed because the human animal cant get along with it's own species As for Manning he'll find Fort Leavenworth no picnic but he'll survive. He will not however become Chelsea Manning while there no matter what he dreams of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Tamudo Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 People elect politicians. Politicians are often poor masters of diplomacy. When failure occurs its the armies who have to go and fight and try and straighten out the whole nasty mess. Put the blame where it belongs. Armies only ever existed because the human animal cant get along with it's own species That's madness Harley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peer Gynt Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 People elect politicians. Politicians are often poor masters of diplomacy. When failure occurs its the armies who have to go and fight and try and straighten out the whole nasty mess. Put the blame where it belongs. Armies only ever existed because the human animal cant get along with it's own species You speak an awful lot of sense, people who argue with you do it on other peoples topics as well, sort of sorry people who've never really made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alternageek Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Not worth any further comment on this thread from me as you are responding to one of my posts that for some reason was pulled I guess us US-ex-pats are being censored for commenting on any affairs that happen in our own backyard.. Ridiculous, unfair and completely undemocratic If you have any questions about forum moderation, you can open a ticket with the help desk. Posts that are not family appropriate have always been removed from the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You speak an awful lot of sense, people who argue with you do it on other peoples topics as well, sort of sorry people who've never really made it. I dont think those people you speak of know what the real issues are. As this thread concerns a matter of military punishment for a soldier who was found guilty of a serioue breach of discipline then it's gone completely over the head of some of them or perhaps should I say those who are basically anti-American in sentiment and display a knee jerk reaction to people like Manning and Snowden. I'll bet that if Manning had been instead a British soldier he would have been held in the same contempt as he is now among his peers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peer Gynt Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I dont think those people you speak of know what the real issues are. As this thread concerns a matter of military punishment for a soldier who was found guilty of a serioue breach of discipline then it's gone completely over the head of some of them or perhaps should I say those who are basically anti-American in sentiment and display a knee jerk reaction to people like Manning and Snowden. I'll bet that if Manning had been instead a British soldier he would have been held in the same contempt as he is now among his peers Manning broke the rules and he knew well the risk that he was taking and has now quite rightly paid the price. 12 years on a chain gang with overtime may well pay for his/its/hers sex change operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You left off hard labour.that's labor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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