Mecky Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 If you press the "quote" button it save you having to retype things..in your opinion it's OK for the workforce to take the mickey? and you still blame the management..? What about Derek Robinsons' penchant for strikes..in one year over 500 walk outs... Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Why did unions come into existence in the first place, do you think it might have something to do with workplace conditions, wages etc? I get the impression that German employers look after their employees better their UK counterparts, so you'd expect friction levels to be lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Why did unions come into existence in the first place, do you think it might have something to do with workplace conditions, wages etc? I'm not sure that I've argued against unions...do you think it justifiable for Derek Robinson to have called out workers over 500 times in just one year..? Do you think wages and conditions were so bad at BL to warrant this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ela James Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I am no expert in industrial relations but perhaps what the BBC said here can explain it better “ Germany's car industry went from strength to strength. Crucially, it enjoyed excellent labour relations - a stark contrast with the pitched battles in many of Britain's troubled car plants. In Germany, management and unions worked closely together in the interests of the common good. Indeed, by law all major German firms are required to set up Works Councils, where the bosses and the unions must work together 'in a spirit of mutual trust'.” Could it be lack of trust, I wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'm not sure that I've argued against unions...do you think it justifiable for Derek Robinson to have called out workers over 500 times in just one year..? Do you think wages and conditions were so bad at BL to warrant this? Probably not, but the standards were set years ago. Instead of pulling together people are being driving apart (divide and conquer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Many people are still under the illusion that we have a benign government that cares about its people, when actually most of them are basically in it for themselves. I'm afraid that we're just an afterthought. What other reason could there be for the way they are running this country into the ground.... If you look at the graph halfway down this page.. http://fullfact.org/factchecks/Growth_Labour_manufacturing-28817 you'll see that manufacturing rises when the Tories are in and falls when Labour are in...it surprised me too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 If you look at the graph halfway down this page.. http://fullfact.org/factchecks/Growth_Labour_manufacturing-28817 you'll see that manufacturing rises when the Tories are in and falls when Labour are in...it surprised me too.. Whatever.... The real point is that the graph is downwards and shows manufacturing falling (a lot) year on year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Whatever.... The real point is that the graph is downwards and shows manufacturing falling (a lot) year on year. .....are you looking at the second graph down the page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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