alchemist Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Have you considered the kind of MP that would create? Rich trustafarians, those with a private income. In other words MP's less representative than we have at present. Isnt that what we already have? Precisely WHO do the MPs truely represent apart from the rich? ---------- Post added 13-08-2013 at 15:36 ---------- So now MPs wages should be means tested Now THERES an idea, after all most benefits are and the MPs salary is DEF a benefit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeway84 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Isnt that what we already have? Precisely WHO do the MPs truely represent apart from the rich? ---------- Post added 13-08-2013 at 15:36 ---------- Now THERES an idea, after all most benefits are and the MPs salary is DEF a benefit!! Well it's getting that way but its not the full picture just yet. The recent Labour scandal was a backlash against old Labour types trying to reverse the trend of naive posho's running everything. There are still good people with life experience on the Labour side. Even the Tory front bench contains an ex miner, albeit a dimwitted scab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 If MPs had to live on benefits and the minimum wage for a set period of time maybe those already on the minimum wage and benefits should have to do the work of an MP, taking responsibility and being answerable for their decisions. Maybe they would also be willing to try and sort out the problems of the constituents and listen to their problems as an MP does. Maybe then we would all have a better understanding of different peoples lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernStar Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Its good that you've confirmed that you have nothing to contribute and are just some rabid dog on here to spout political prejudice and not seriously discuss the point. We can now get on without you and just dismiss your words as mindless politically motivated clap trap. Even Mecky makes more sensible posts than you. It is very relevant and factual, if you don't like to question anything that cuts against your conformation bias then it is you who have taken a politicly motivated view not me, just another blinkered flag waving Tory. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/01/iain-duncan-smith-live-benefits http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/housing-cuts-ids-gets-mansion-258616 http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/30/hugh-muir-diary-iain-duncan-smith http://tompride.wordpress.com/2013/04/06/iain-duncan-smith-bullied-aide-to-tears-over-his-expenses-claims-for-underwear/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Shoes Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I disagree the OPs assertion that MPs should understand what it's like to struggle as many people do in this country is nothing to do with British people hating success. I think it's about wanting to have MPs whose feet are on the ground and who don't take money for granted. Compared to Italy, Spain and some other countries, our politics is comparatively clean. The fact that you'd be too outspoken would mean more people would vote for you surely One thing i have learnt about Sheffield from this forum is that its citizens fear change. They like things the way they've always been (the Yorkshire way) and miss the days when people worked 16 hrs down a mine shaft. Why do you think there is an overwhelming vote for labour in this city? The conservatives could end the recession tomorrow and it wouldnt mean a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldprune Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Now THERES an idea, after all most benefits are and the MPs salary is DEF a benefit!! So the candidates could declare their wealth and we could vote for the richest one as that would mean they worked for now't. ---------- Post added 13-08-2013 at 16:25 ---------- It is very relevant and factual, if you don't like to question anything that cuts against your conformation bias then it is you who have taken a politicly motivated view not me, just another blinkered flag waving Tory. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/01/iain-duncan-smith-live-benefits http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/housing-cuts-ids-gets-mansion-258616 http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/30/hugh-muir-diary-iain-duncan-smith http://tompride.wordpress.com/2013/04/06/iain-duncan-smith-bullied-aide-to-tears-over-his-expenses-claims-for-underwear/ I don't have time to read all your irrelevant garbage that you think you have found to support your personal prejudices . I'll leave you to trawl your sewer to to try to justify your stance and the planets oxygen that your existence is wasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernStar Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I don't have time to read all your irrelevant garbage that you think you have found to support your personal prejudices . I'll leave you to trawl your sewer to to try to justify your stance and the planets oxygen that your existence is wasting. Oh dear, you mean you don't have the ability to form an opinion based on facts that don't support your blind faith and prefer to insult anyone who puts forward facts that clearly show something that you don't want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldprune Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Oh dear, you mean you don't have the ability to form an opinion based on facts that don't support your blind faith and prefer to insult anyone who puts forward facts that clearly show something that you don't want to see. I wasn't insulting you. You do that well enough for yourself. I'm struggling with your logic of pointing out that ministerial office comes with a house. That's why the Prime Minister lives in Downing Street and the Chancellor lives next door. Did you not notice that the last Labour government had exactly the same perks? Perhaps if you took an interest in politics beyond the opinions on your council estate it would broaden your outlook on life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 If MPs had to live on benefits and the minimum wage for a set period of time maybe those already on the minimum wage and benefits should have to do the work of an MP, taking responsibility and being answerable for their decisions. Maybe they would also be willing to try and sort out the problems of the constituents and listen to their problems as an MP does. Maybe then we would all have a better understanding of different peoples lives. I wish! When will Gordon Brown, for example, 'take responsibility' for what he did? If MPS were held responsible for their actions/inactions, you would need a few more prisons, because many of them would go down for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It is very relevant and factual, if you don't like to question anything that cuts against your conformation bias then it is you who have taken a politicly motivated view not me, just another blinkered flag waving Tory. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/01/iain-duncan-smith-live-benefits http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/housing-cuts-ids-gets-mansion-258616 http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/30/hugh-muir-diary-iain-duncan-smith http://tompride.wordpress.com/2013/04/06/iain-duncan-smith-bullied-aide-to-tears-over-his-expenses-claims-for-underwear/ You forgot this one.. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/341801/Wealthy-Tony-Blair-still-costing-us-435k-a-year TONY Blair is costing taxpayers £435,000 a year despite a personal fortune estimated at £30million, it emerged yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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