Workers from Bulgaria and Romania up 26%

[DeathAxe]

"workers" half of them end up on benefits.

[Mecky]

Why would they need to be clandestine?..........as members of the EU,they can enter the UK whenever they like.

 

Because it's cheaper and they'll probably be travelling with their mates but most of all it's because they'll probably be people from other countries trying to pass themselves off as citizens from the new member states. To assume they're all going to arrive by ferry, plane and arrive etc is a bit naive.

[chalga]

Because it's cheaper and they'll probably be travelling with their mates but most of all it's because they'll probably be people from other countries trying to pass themselves off as citizens from the new member states. To assume they're all going to arrive by ferry, plane and arrive etc is a bit naive.

 

You're missing the point,it doesn't matter how they arrive,Romanian and Bulgarian people can enter the UK whenever they want,they don't need to be 'clandestine',whether they are travelling with mates or without.I don't know what you mean by 'new member states either'...........both countries have been EU members since 2007.

[Mecky]

You're missing the point,it doesn't matter how they arrive,Romanian and Bulgarian people can enter the UK whenever they want,they don't need to be 'clandestine',whether they are travelling with mates or without.I don't know what you mean by 'new member states either'...........both countries have been EU members since 2007.

 

You're just trying to drag out a troll

[alchresearch]

why would British workers fly to these countries to earn less

 

And there's a culture difference. In Europe, especially Eastern, its much more common for families to share houses, really cram them in, convert living rooms to bedrooms and the like.

 

My Polish colleagues lived like this in order to save or send home more money - they rented a three bedroom semi in the local area and slept a family of three or four in each double bedroom. It wasn't squalid in any way, but "cosy".

 

That isn't the British way.

[chalga]

You're just trying to drag out a troll

 

No idea what you are talking about.

[Vague_Boy]

I'm pretty sure he didn't.

 

Quite right. It was the war criminal/Murdoch lapdog Tony Blair.

 

In 2004 the EU adopted a directive (2004/38/EC) - usually referred to as the free movement directive - which consolidated previous EU legislation on the subject and provided greater clarity as to the meaning of the limitations on free movement that can be applied on the grounds of public policy, public security and public health. This directive was controversial because of the way it restricted, in particular, the ability of Member States to expel citizens of other Member States from their territory because of criminal convictions. Difficulties in the transposition of the 2004 directive led to the Commission producing detailed guidance in 2009 designed to ensure greater consistence of implementation across the EU. Nonetheless, the free movement directive, and to some extent the principle of free movement, are still criticised in some quarters.

 

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[Kid Sampson]

In the last three months the number of Romanians and Bulgarians working in the UK rose by a quarter.

 

Restrictions on the type of jobs people from these two countries are due to expire later this year which may mean that even more come over.

 

Isn't it great that they want to come over here and help the UK economy during these times of austerity?

 

Or would you rather they went back to where they came from?

 

Even Labour now admit that mass immigration of low skilled workers depresses wages and has a detrimental effect on T's&C's of existing workers. This will no doubt happen to signiicant effect come January and businesses will profit at the ordinary workers expense. Do you welcome this?

[Zamo]

Why not a country where wages are even higher than those in the UK?

 

Where would that be?

 

It also isn't as simple as just looking at the wages. You also need to factor in the generous benefits here that top up the income of low earner( which means low paid immigrants make a net-negative contribution to our nations coffers). They obviously have... which is why they choose to come here.

[SevenRivers]

In the last three months the number of Romanians and Bulgarians working in the UK rose by a quarter.

 

Restrictions on the type of jobs people from these two countries are due to expire later this year which may mean that even more come over.

 

Isn't it great that they want to come over here and help the UK economy during these times of austerity?

 

Or would you rather they went back to where they came from?

 

Depends on their skills. If they are skilled in something we have a particular shortage of, then anybody should be eligible to fulfil that need (even non-EU), but we have no shortage of unskilled labour, so people with no particular skill should not be welcomed until every unskilled person is off of our out of work welfare system.