natjack Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Nasty to attack a defenceless old man, I just hope he's not shunned by his community like this guy that had his turban ripped off his head http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shame-sikh-father-after-drunken-1732795 It's bizarre that being attacked and having your religious headgear forcibly removed can result in you being shunned by your own people? Almost like being raped can result in the same effect. Some of these religious rules can have some very sad outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothybabe Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Nasty to attack a defenceless old man, I just hope he's not shunned by his community like this guy that had his turban ripped off his head http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shame-sikh-father-after-drunken-1732795 It's bizarre that being attacked and having your religious headgear forcibly removed can result in you being shunned by your own people? Almost like being raped can result in the same effect. Some of these religious rules can have some very sad outcomes. That says much more about the state of his community then the attacker himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I doubt she will even get a prison sentence, our justice system is so weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Nobody should be made an example of. The harshest sentence allowed should be given to everyone. In the case of this crime (rare) don't you think that by highlighting it you are actually putting emphasis that society will have zero tolerance. If it's a common crime then by definition societies tolerance is less than zero. Or, it doesn't matter what sentence you throw at a perp their sensibilities will not be effected and those contemplating such crimes will also not be affected. Or is the present laws overall doing their job..keeping check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Could it be construed as a racist attack due to her pulling off his turban? Attacks on OAPs, particularly 80+ year olds should be dealt with with the harshest severity. She should get 5 years at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Could it be construed as a racist attack due to her pulling off his turban? She doesn't pull his turban off, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothybabe Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 ]In the case of this crime (rare) don't you think that by highlighting it you are actually putting emphasis that society will have zero tolerance. [/b] If it's a common crime then by definition societies tolerance is less than zero. Or, it doesn't matter what sentence you throw at a perp their sensibilities will not be effected and those contemplating such crimes will also not be affected. Or is the present laws overall doing their job..keeping check? What crime would that be, race crime or crime against an old person ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoad Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Quote: Originally Posted by Steptoad I'm not sure it's such a bad thing that at least one person recorded the attack. Not only did it provide a lot more detail and evidence than witness statements could have done, but I think that the police seem a lot more inclined to work on cases like this that have been plastered all over social media sites. Of course it would have been even better if at least one person had helped him too. Originally Posted by bassy I agree with this if they had taken the footage straight to the police station but sadly they didn't and uploaded it as some sort of entertainment for like minded imbeciles, the fact the police had it as evidence is sadly secondary, but damming none the less I sometimes think the police are quite lazy about crime unless it's high profile. As attacks on people, and the elderly especially, are becoming more and more common they become less important, so spreading it around the internet raises its profile. Any right minded person would be disgusted by this attack and not watch it for its entertainment value. Of course there is always the argument of desensitization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 What crime would that be, race crime or crime against an old person ? I'm not sure there is such a crime "old person". As for "race" evidence would have to be given. The fact he's Asian isn't proof of a race crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I wonder what her parents feel right now? Ashamed? Not bothered? 19 years old, unemployed and spending her weekends getting drunk and beating up pensioners. I think it's fair to say that they have failed as parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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